From Boers To Ballistic Missiles

We can and should stand on our two feet.We do not need BMD.We should build OUR defence to what WE need.If a war threatens,then WE can take the appropiate action.Canada does not go on the imperial war path.

This was a great article. A nice change from reading wimpy, Henny-penny, ant-Canadian rhetoric from business and political leaders. Way to go Star.

A great article in the STAR by David Crane.

"Executives too eager to rebuke Canada

OTTAWA—What's most disturbing in the Canada-U.S. relationship today goes well beyond disagreement on ballistic missile defence or opposing views on the Kyoto Accord. What's most disturbing is the very real fear of the United States that exists in the Canadian business community.

It leads business executives to adopt a Blame Canada attitude for any deterioration in the relationship and to advocate what amounts to a Canadian subservience to the United States on foreign policy and defence issues.

This same fear also leads to proposals for ever deeper formal integration of Canada into the United States, even though this would mean a steady erosion of Canadian sovereignty and the eventual loss of our capacities as an independent nation in North America and the world......"

Join the Toronto STAR for free online to read the rest of this article. Please send e-mails of support to the writers as you know they will also be getting flak and threats from business Henny-pennys.
talus

Perhaps someone can post mr Cranes article on the front page?
talus

Please do.

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The midget, Bush, and that Rumsfield deserve only to be beaten with shoes by freedom loving people everywhere.

- Mohammed Saeed al-Sahhaf, The Iraqi Informat

"What's most disturbing is the very real fear of the United States that exists in the Canadian business community."

Maybe that's all it is. They're afraid. I got this sense when John Manley spoke with two depressing characters, former American ambassadors who put a Canadian business audience to sleep. Editor of the Globe and Mail, Edward Greesnpon, after an afternoon of fawning and bootlicking, said something like in conclusion:

"As you two gentlemen said, we have water, and you don't, and that's why we're afraid of you."

That just shows how the Canadian business class has an inferior knowledge of military issues. Canada is a huge territory, and even small countries are almost impossible to conquer if they fight back. Our technology and soldiers are the best, we'd be fine if these fools broke out of their illusion.


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The midget, Bush, and that Rumsfield deserve only to be beaten with shoes by freedom loving people everywhere.

- Mohammed Saeed al-Sahhaf, The Iraqi Informat

Fear or terror.

I think your right Perturbed, our leaders are in an emotional straight-jacket. It's an element of immaturity that is not shared by the majority of Canadians. Perhaps the Canadian public is way ahead of the business and politicos. It seems we have a vision of Canada's future that is bigger, more mature, and more profound than what they can imagine.

What an odd situation to be in.

An interesting question is who or whom has produced this emotional response in our leaders? Is it their imagination or is someone terrorizing them- who are the terrorists?

I think this article writer is dead on.

I agree talus. As for why they act this way, well, maybe becuase they grew up with the mentality, didn't learn Canadian history in school, have summer homes in Miami, work with Americans, and are in a different social class.

I don't know if I'd go so far as to say that most Canadians have Vive's vision--we still are the educated minority.

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The midget, Bush, and that Rumsfield deserve only to be beaten with shoes by freedom loving people everywhere.

- Mohammed Saeed al-Sahhaf, The Iraqi Informat

Well Perturbed, I would agree that the public can easily slip into a state of fear or terror but it usually takes a bit of a push by someone they have been conditioned to respect. I don't believe this is a natural state for the public. Especially the Canadian public.

Is it immoral to sell ideas by fear or terror? It's certainly easier to do if you, yourself, are consummed by fear.

Proportionally, Canada has lost the same or more people to terrorist acts(flight 182) than other countries. Yet, even though a great number of this trajedy were children, we did not become terrorized by fear. I wonder if someone would use a similar trajedy today to sell a business idea.

God bless all those children.

Jeez, my spelling is horrible today. That's tragedy. I need a spell checker!

Oh, I didn't mean that most Canadians are fearful, Quite the opposite. They are reserved IMO. I just meant that most people I know aren't very informed when it comes to politics. Almost half the country doesn't even vote at all.

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The midget, Bush, and that Rumsfield deserve only to be beaten with shoes by freedom loving people everywhere.

- Mohammed Saeed al-Sahhaf, The Iraqi Informat

"I don't think anybody could have predicted that these people would take an airplane and slam it into the World Trade Center, take another one and slam it into the Pentagon, that they would try to use an airplane as a missile, a hijacked airplane as a missile." – Condoleezza Rice, May 16, 2002"

Did Rice ever thank Canada for allowing the Guided Missile tests over the Mackenzie Valley during the 80's?

Sure as the gap between her teeth, they (mossad, cia, etal) used the same technology to 'guide' planes in the WTC, blame the fictional Bin Laden, and use the whole thing (911) as a pretext for keeping resources (warring) in the Middle East denominated in the USA dollar bumwad currency.

I'm sorry but I don't know how to do that.

In reference to some of the comments concerning the 'Canadian' business community, 'Canadian' executives, etc.

I finally got around to reading 'The Corporation' last night.

I found it to be a good, plain language read.

The book didn't have a significant amount of information that was new to me or offer many conclusions that I hadn't previously arrived at myself. However, the author did put a few 1 + 1s together that I hadn't previously and found extremely helpful.

There is no 'Canadian' corporate community, there is only a corporate community. Corporate executives speaking in their capacity as such should be recognized as citizens of their corporation, rather than 'Canadians'. Nothing emanating from any of these people should be viewed or presented as coming from a 'Canadian' source, because it isn't, it's coming from a corporate source and as such has absolutely nothing to do with the interests of any nation or the citizens thereof.

The views expressed by these individuals are only what is best for their corporation, nothing more, and as such should, if reported at all, not be treated as advertising rather than 'news'.

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"When we are in the middle of the paradigm, it is hard to imagine any other paradigm" (Adam Smith).
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