Canada, Mexico, U.S. Release Blueprint For Deep Integration

Posted on Monday, June 27 at 15:55 by jensonj
The proposals range from the mundane to the highly controversial: finding common specifications for dangerous goods containers, for example; and developing common biometric travel documents and visa requirements. Full article: http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2005/06/27/pf-1107234.html

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  1. Mon Jun 27, 2005 11:13 pm
    They see the "tyranny of small differences" where I see important and significant differences that help us maintain some unique economic and political identity.

    But the bottom line is that whether or not you agree with deep integration and harmonization (I most definitely don't and good on the NDP MP for saying so too), anything this major shouldn't be done without any say from Canadian citizens. There needs to be a real public debate and Canadians need to decide for themselves.

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    Now call it extreme if you like, but I propose we hit it hard, and we hit it fast, with a major, and I mean major...leaflet campaign.--Rimmer, Red Dwarf

  2. Tue Jun 28, 2005 12:07 am
    More so we should look at the Europeans who are now backing away from their own little version of this. Why must our elected leaders and corporate cronies always have to rehash the already failed?

  3. Tue Jun 28, 2005 12:36 am
    I've created and saved an email form letter you can send to the Industry Minister, Mclellan and Julian. You can edit it to add your own comments as well. <P> Visit: <a href="http://www.vivelecanada.ca/formletters/index.php/20050627163437386">Deep Integration Means Deep Trouble</a> <p>---<br>Now call it extreme if you like, but I propose we hit it hard, and we hit it fast, with a major, and I mean major...leaflet campaign.--Rimmer, Red Dwarf<br />

  4. Tue Jun 28, 2005 2:16 am
    See also; <br />
    <br />
    Building a North American Community<br />
    Report of the Independent Task Force<br />
    on the Future of North America<br />
    <br />
    <a href="http://www.usembassycanada.gov/content/can_usa/northamericancommunity_TF_final.pdf">http://www.usembassycanada.gov/content/can_usa/northamericancommunity_TF_final.pdf</a><br />
    <br />
    <p>---<br>Perception is two thirds of what we perceive reality to be.<br />
    <br />
    Difficult decisions are a privilege of rank.<br />

  5. Tue Jun 28, 2005 2:22 am
    See also;<br />
    <br />
    Canada, U.S, Mexico push for closer relationship<br />
    Last Updated Mon, 27 Jun 2005 19:11:10 EDT <br />
    CBC News<br />
    <br />
    <br />
    <a href="http://www.cbc.ca/story/business/national/2005/06/27/econ-cooperation050627.html?print">http://www.cbc.ca/story/business/national/2005/06/27/econ-cooperation050627.html?print</a><br />
    <p>---<br>Perception is two thirds of what we perceive reality to be.<br />
    <br />
    Difficult decisions are a privilege of rank.<br />

  6. Tue Jun 28, 2005 2:42 am
    Forgot to say that of course it goes to the PM.

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    Now call it extreme if you like, but I propose we hit it hard, and we hit it fast, with a major, and I mean major...leaflet campaign.--Rimmer, Red Dwarf

  7. Tue Jun 28, 2005 4:04 am
    <p>The Europeans already have a far broader version of harmonisation than North Americans do — it’s called the <i>Acquis communitaire</i>. The several recent referenda on the EU constitution have had no effect on the <i>Acquis</i>.</p><p>---<br>I am willing to love all mankind, except an American…<br />
    <br />
    — Samuel Johnson, LL.D.: 15th April 1778<br />

  8. Tue Jun 28, 2005 4:18 am
    That is true, but it is those in place agreements that have lead for the most part to the denial of further intergration schemes. How long before they too are sought to be undone?

  9. Tue Jun 28, 2005 6:04 am
    <p>They will probably start to be undone when nations determine that the European mobility of goods, services, capital, and labour form a net negative rather than a net positive.</p> <p>Curiously, <a href="http://www.ide.go.jp/English/Inter/Sympo/pdf/vena_hand.pdf">this PDF handout</a> refers to the <i>Acquis</i> as an example of “successful ‘deep integration’”. That’s the first instance of the phrase outside of North America that I’ve seen.</p><p>---<br>I am willing to love all mankind, except an American…<br />
    <br />
    — Samuel Johnson, LL.D.: 15th April 1778<br />

  10. Tue Jun 28, 2005 8:23 am
    This is a huge news story, that was not even top story on the local news, or telus news at all yet. People don't understand the implications and the strange part is that 'smart regulation' is suppose to be still in the consultative stage. So what is going on? McLelland says that drugs approved in the U.S. shouldn't need to be approved in Canada, what is that about? We are going to hand over our regulations to another country and accept it as good enough? Next will be gm foods, and water quality, environmental decisions etc. Biometric border security, and here comes the new global world, all controlled by one entity and we are just a country in name! I think that this issue needs serious discussion and people speaking out, loudly!!

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    If I stand for my country today...will my country be here to stand for me tomorrow?

  11. Tue Jun 28, 2005 9:19 am
    hey - what's a little BGH among friends eh?

  12. Tue Jun 28, 2005 1:26 pm
    If we love our country, honour its past and have faith in its future we must reject that which can diminish our present and betray our past.

    Canada is a proud and independent nation, not a partnership. In the spirit of the words of "O Canada", standing on guard for Canada means many things but deeper integration with the United States would certainly not be one of them.

    Canada's fate may be linked inextricably to America's but that does not mean that deeper economic integration is necessary. Harmonization should not take place without complete transparency and thorough critical debate.

    The fact that the foreign affairs, security and commerce sectors of government are all now talking the same language may be sweet music to the ears of the Canadian Council of Chief Executives, but what if millions of Canadians don't like the lyrics and where is this new music leading us? Are the people setting out the over 300 specific concrete milestones in their work plans standing on guard for Canada, or are they doing this with fast drying cement while singing a happy tune?

    All government ministers and representatives right down to the smallest bureaucrat must not ignore Canadians' desires regarding our sovereignty. The Canadian people need to have the facts so that with knowledge and wisdom the decisions regarding Canada's future will be made for the benefit not of the few, but for all Canadians.


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    Canadabob

  13. Tue Jun 28, 2005 2:20 pm
    If Canada has to go this way then the United States of America should be willing to first respect Canadian Law, Canadian Sovereignty, Rights and Liberty, except playing on a level playing field and be willing to enact laws to protect Canadian citizens individual rights when they are in the United States.

    If this is expected, then the rest will not happen for fair play is not how the U.S. does Business.

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    Perception is two thirds of what we perceive reality to be.

    Difficult decisions are a privilege of rank.

  14. Tue Jun 28, 2005 3:52 pm
    I find it interesting that in all the comments nobody picked out the key words of Trade Secretary Guiterrez " No market economy can thrive ....."

    It should be pretty obvious to everybody by now that the theory of "market economy" has been a total failure that caused nothing but environmental destruction and misery around the world. This is obviously an attempt to destroy all human values and civilization in the mad rush for profits for a small sector, while calling it a "market economy" to cover up the real intent for corporate dictatorship, before people wake up and while they can still be doped with fraudulent promises.

    By the way, I have it from a very reliable European source, that the EU is in deep trouble, with people beginning to question its motives and benefits. Ed Deak, Big Lake, BC.



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