PaulMartinTime.Ca Threatened With Lawsuit By Liberal Party!

Posted on Monday, December 22 at 16:03 by N Say
"The site doesn't contain any of the Liberal Party's stylesheets or images," said Dru Oja Jay. "The entire site as it exists now was built from scratch."

Paul Martin Time.ca will stay online despite the threats.

"I suspect they would not be threatening us if they were not worried about the content," said Rob Maguire, a writer and researcher for Paul Martin Time.ca.

"Paul Martin Time.ca is getting a lot of attention for a reason; Canadians want critical analysis of Paul Martin, and they're not getting it," said site founder Dave Ron. "The Liberal Party may have a problem with us using the words 'Paul Martin' and 'Time', or that we mock the form and content of Paul Martin's site".

"It's a little disconcerting that our deadline to take down the site is Christmas eve," Ron added.

Paul Martin Time.ca receives thousands of hits daily, and has attracted the attention of a number of publications, including the Halifax Chronicle-Herald, Rabble.ca, Straightgoods.com, Salt Spring Island News and the Dominion.

For a personal account of the Liberal Party's threats, and a copy of the original cease-and-desist email, visit the following page:

http://paulmartintime.ca/lawsuit/000061.html

Note: http://paulmartintime.c... http://paulmartintime.c...

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  1. Tue Dec 23, 2003 1:41 am
    Ok, people. Get your \"Fingers on Fire\" and let the PM
    I can\'t believe they would try to do this, and since I have nothing to lose, I think I\'ll fire off a few emails know how you feel about this one. What a boy !!
    to all the Feds and Ontario politicians.

    This guy has an ego wider than any of his sweatships, no doubt.

    If you can\'t take the heat, stay out of the kitchen...

    This boy looks more like a lowbrow every day.

    Disgusting !

    I loved the cartoon in the Toronto Star the other day, it showed Martin doing backflips all over his office, saying something like \"Whooooopeeeee\", and his guards said something like \"he\'s been doing this for a couple of hours\" or something like that. He finally made it to the BIG TIME !! Lucky for us !

    The man is definitely happy to be PM, so let\'s see him start acting like one.

    \"Up with Healthcare, Down with Corporate taxes.\"

    BTW, the corporate taxes would have paid for the \"Up with Healthcare\", don\'t you think ??

    Oh well. More of the same. Brian, Jean, Paul; hell, they ought to start a museum just for these guys.

    But I digress. Again !!



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    "Arrogance in Politics is unacceptable"
    Jim Callaghan
    Minden, Ontario
    705-286-1860
    www.misterc.ca

  2. Tue Dec 23, 2003 1:44 am
    Sorry about the formatting in the first paragraph. It really does make sense, you just have to study it a bit. The lines got mixed up. Darn mouse !!

    Slip of the tongue.



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    "Arrogance in Politics is unacceptable"
    Jim Callaghan
    Minden, Ontario
    705-286-1860
    www.misterc.ca

  3. by avatar Jesse
    Tue Dec 23, 2003 2:21 am
    Having had a look at the source code for the two sites, I have to agree that paulmartintime.ca didn\'t use any of the same code. There\'s just too many differences in formatting, names, layout, and content(i.e. everything). Does anybody know the legal definition of parody as far as it would pertain to this?

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    JvH

  4. Tue Dec 23, 2003 2:36 am
    Wax museum would be best, or dungeon perhaps!

  5. Tue Dec 23, 2003 4:15 pm
    It's a parody. No one could consider this an actual Paul Martin site.<p> This kind of thing is done all the time, trademarks must be enforced or they become null and void. Take for example a company who created a Linux based operating system, and called it "Lindows". Microsoft stomped all over them, and lost. But Microsoft had to try to defend their "Windows" brand.<p> Paul Martin must defend his name, or it can be used for thing over which he doesn't control. I'd just love for some east asian sweatshop to open under the "Paul Martin" banner. Or a Cathouse. :)<p> <p>---<br>"History does not repeat itself, but it does rhyme" Mark Twain

  6. Tue Dec 23, 2003 5:23 pm
    Poor sweatshop Paul - cant take the truth or a joke?

    All he is going to achieve is getting this great site a whole lot of attention real fast. They are barely two weeks old and Pauls actions may take them forward in such a fashion that would have taken a year or longer otherwise.

    Like the Dr said - no one could confuse the two sites if they can read any english. I took a peak at the source codes and they are nothing alike. Besides - can one copyright or otherwise trademark a style sheet?

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    If there was ever a time for Canadians to become pushy - now is the time - for time is running out on this nation called Canada.

  7. Tue Dec 23, 2003 6:11 pm
    Too bad someone didn\'t think about this a long time ago, and bought up all the domain names to keep his name off the market.

    A chance to sell something, perhaps ??

    Look what Wal-Mart did or tried to do to a small Ontario business called Wool-Mart ? Big legal stink about \"infringing on whatever\", but Wool-Mart was around years before Wal-Mart even came to Canada.

    They tried to force him to give up the name or buy him out, and I forget the details.

    That\'s what the BIG cororations do, they run like a steamroller.

    BTW, I guess Paul Martin didn\'t take a swipe at Fly Our Flag, because it didn\'t use his name, but the intent was the same !!

    Keep up the good work, guys, and stand your ground if you can.



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    "Arrogance in Politics is unacceptable"
    Jim Callaghan
    Minden, Ontario
    705-286-1860
    www.misterc.ca

  8. Tue Dec 23, 2003 6:57 pm
    I\'m no lawyer, but I would think satire can be a comment on another work which legitimately uses part of the original work. If it uses so much of the original work that it has simply been copied rather than become a comment, I think that\'s when a copyright infringement is likely to have occurred.

    But I checked the copyright act (http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/C-42/)and could find no mention of satire or parody.

    I\'m thinking this could also be construed as a violation of free speech by the Liberal Party.

  9. by avatar Jesse
    Tue Dec 23, 2003 9:28 pm
    a stylesheet is a creative work like any other; as such, it falls under copyright laws. So yes.

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    JvH

  10. Tue Dec 23, 2003 10:30 pm
    Flick sez:<br> <br> This happened with Stockwell Day mockery sites, like the one Mike Gifford ran in Ontario (CanadianAlliance.ca). He was threatened by the alliance, he got front page coverage in the Globe, and the Alliance slinked away like the chickens they are.<br> <br> Same thing will happen here. Call the Globe; call the Toronto Star; the Gazette. Say "Paul Martin is suing me; I'd like to talk to a reporter." Big press, bad for Paul, you win, he loses.<br> <br> Also GWBush.com - same thing. "There ought to be limits to freedom," Bush said, in response to that site, but http://www.gwbush.com is still up and running. Though freedom limits did arrive.



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