Harper, Martin Miss The Point On GST

I have great concern that we are being led down a phoney path here with respect all of this money being offered up for CHILD CARE.

Do the demographics ( children ) support the dollars being offered?

I understand that the birth rate is way down, and most of the children these dollars are to be directed towards are just not there. All you have to do is look at the class sizes in the elementary schools and you will see that classes are getting smaller in most Canadian elementary schools.
Those citizens who are between 20 and 40 are not getting married and having young, so I would say that Paul Martins offer is bullshit. Any money the Liberal put into a program will most likely fall into the hand of Liberal HACKS.

Can you get someone on to explain the declining birth rate and if the birth rate is down , then why such a high figure for something that might not even be there?

I like Harpers HST offer, I think his child care offer is ok, but there is room for improvement. I would like to see home owners get a tax deduction for doing upgrades to their property, instead of having these government managed environmental programs.

I am not a conservative supporter, but they have created an opportunity for discussion.

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Good government is not a party government

"The Green Party would reduce the GST on products that cut pollution and improve the health of Canadians, while comparably raising it on products that do the opposite."

While most of the Green Party platform I agree with, this is not one aspect of it.

The GST is complicated enough, without having different rates for different things. Men's razors, no GST. 1 doughnut, 7%GST. 6 doughnuts, no GST. Imagine 2 doughnuts, 6%, 3@ 5%, Cruellers @ 8% . . .

Don't discount retailers anger at this logistical mess!


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"If you must kill a man, it costs you nothing to be polite about it." Winston Churchill

Ah I see your point but remember the system of taxes it replaced! Now there was a logistical nightmare!

I do remember the same thing being said when the GST was first introduced and having some things exempt - that retailers would be up in arms. It never happened.

It seems to me that the declining birth rates are related
to the high cost of living. People 20-40 can barely afford
themselves in many cases so ..,

I simply have cotton in my ears, they will all promise the
stars and deliver a handful of crap. Nothing they say now
is credible in any way except the expansion of the police
state. Their 'beliefs' are expressed through their
actions, more cops, less teachers. More prisons, fewer
schools and hospitals. Constantly influxing new people
without expanding existing infrastructure creates more
stress on the system. The 'childcare' is aimed right at
new immigrants ...

Our electoral system needs to be reformed. I am typing on
a device that was 'updated' in 2001 (pentium 3) yet we
depend upon a parlimentary system that is from the 17th
century. We are witnessing the failure of our system to
protect us from the backroom deals this dog and pony
show/election is distracting the populace from.

Well as far as the media are concerned Canada has only two political parties,both being the Liberals and the ConServatives.

Onething for sure they pissed me off and my family,we have decided to vote Green. Canada is being compromised by CTV, Global and CBC .

We have decided to file complaints with the CRTC against our public funded CBC National Broadcaster, because they are discriminating against a tax funded political party , The Green Party of Canada. The CBC have no right taking this position and it just shows how and who controls them, they are managed by the Liberal Party of Canada . SHAME!!!

If they wanted to reduce pollution they would offer incentives. Conversion to propane (LPG) on a vehicle in BC is over $4000. Those traveling high milage per annum may attempt to justify it. Droping the GST on the conversion would help but not by much. Commercial vehicles get a credit for the GST. The average motorist would benefit greatly running on LPG and so would the population. Propane is a lot less of a pollutant.

The talk of lowering/eliminating GST on less polluting products is BS. If they were really intending on giving incentives then drop *all* the tax's. New furnaces, fridges and factory made LPG cars would be more likely.

Hah! They ALL miss the point! No government can pass any progressive legislation as long as we have NAFTA and Chapter 11 which states that government can be sued by corporations for lost profits! Remember Ethyl Corp`s lawsuit against the Canadian government over the banning of MMT? The only party to not miss this is the Canadian Action Party. Oh, and, instead of blaming drivers, who need to drive in this big country of ours, how about those fuel cell vehicles that were apparently just around the corner like, 10 years ago?

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Dave Ruston

I to have a great deal of problem with child care "goodies" being offered, having raised my brood without government child care subsidies despite below "poverty line" income for many of those years, I feel that you should raise your kids without being paid by govenment for child care. Yes, there must be support for those that need help to feed or clothe their kids but unless ALL parents Rural, Urban, Remote, those unable to find work despite trying etc. recive the same access it is just an election ploy to attract those that chose to both work rather than raise and care for their own children. If it must be, then give the parents the cash to enable them to hire local mums or stay at home and do it themselves.
The GST should indeed, if retained in any form, be more selective as to what is and is not taxed, i.e. dont tax diapers, childrens clothing, homeheating fuel, domestic hydro etc.

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FTT (FINANCIAL TRANSACTION TAX) --MOVING TOWARD A SIMPLE SOLUTION

Taxes were originally designed to provide governments with the funds they needed to 'run the country'. Today Revenue Agencies collect taxes only in order to pay off the interest owed to private banks on an un-repayable debt. So who better than the banks themselves to collect 'taxes' in the form of FTT and remit them to our government Treasury under open public scrutiny?

A simple 1% Financial Transaction Tax on every financial transaction--a single-paragraph piece of legislation, with no loopholes and no exceptions--would, in our debt-laden world, provide all the funds necessary to revitalise our communities and restore our national economies.

1% on a turnover of $1.2 quadrillion would yield $12 trillion a year. - enough to pay down every national debt within 18 months, while eliminating income tax, corporate tax, property tax, , GST and sales taxes of every type. Billions could be saved by eradicating the CCRA (RevCan) and the IRS, along with their Gestapo-like tactics. Those speculating on the stock markets and commodity futures markets (97% of participants) should simply see it for what it is--a gambling tax! Even those few who claim genuine participation would see the overall benefits that would come from introducing FTT. It is not the final solution, but it would stop the tragic hemorrhaging until the right to create the nation's money is removed from private banks with their built-in system of usury and returned to our elected government, where it constitutionally belongs. Meanwhile, it's time for us 'ordinary folk' to benefit from the profits that only our hard work makes possible!



THE CLAIRE FOSS JOURNAL
Channel Islands model of debt-free money
Patricia Knox

The British government, like most other governments, has delegated money-creation to the central bank. Money is therefore loaned at interest to the government by the central bank, instead of being issued debt-free by the government. Increasing amounts of tax revenue are therefore being used to repay the debt to the Bank of England. Since there is no mechanism for writing off any government debt, present day tax money is being used to pay interest on the accumulated debt of the past 300 years. High interest rates only aggravate the situation.
The banks should pay governments for a licence to create money. Governments should not pay interest.
As each year goes by, an increased percentage of tax revenue is swallowed up by the Bank of England, and social services are withdrawn as there is not enough money left to fund them.
Debt is like a cancer in society. It causes the ills of unemployment, bankruptcy, poverty and destitution, which lead, in turn, to crime and ill health. At some point in the future, at least in some countries, the rate of money-creation, increasing at an exponential rate, will be overtaken by the size of the government debt, increasing at an even faster exponential rate.
At that point, all wealth will go to pay an unrepayable loan, and there will be no social services. This is already the case in Third World countries, where the real wealth of those countries is exported to pay an unrepayable debt, and where every newborn baby is already in debt to foreign banks.
In the Channel Islands it is different. There, the government has not delegated the money-creating powers to the banks. There, the government creates debt-free money and spends it into the economy, rather than lending it into the economy, so that the government has no debt to the banks. Partly as a result, Jersey and Guernsey experience prosperity unknown in many countries. Income tax is only 20%. There is no VAT, inheritance tax or capital gains tax.
Governments everywhere should take back their power to create interest-free money, and nations would thus reach a new level of prosperity. An essential first step would be to make all loans unenforceable, like gambling debts are now, and then money lenders would become more responsible in their lending. Equity finance, where the investor shares in either profit or loss, rather than loans on fixed interest, would become the approved method of finance.
Patricia Knox, Pen Llywenan, Bodedern, Holyhead, Gwynedd, Wales LL65 4TS (tel 01407 740767).