RCMP Sued By Man Who Recorded Fatal Taser Incident At Vancouver Airport

Police spokeman said they didn't want the tape released to the public, as it may taint the evidence of other witnesses..........I suppose they should be given the benefit of the doubt to a degree.

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"When you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change."
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Yes, however the tape should be put into more trustworthy hands for save keeping.

Pritchard was interviewed on TV last night. He claimed, he had about 20 mins. of footage and when the police arrived, they didn't try to subdue, or talk to the man, just zapped him without warning. ????????????

He also said that he wants to publish, which means sell, the tape. Which may be the problem.

There's no question that various police departments have been quite trigger happy lately, perhaps because of the recent shootings, but in this case there was absolutely no danger of the man having a gun, or weapon, having just left a plane. On the other hand, from the way he behaved, he must have had some emotional, or mental problems to begin with.

It was definitely a screwup all around, which ended up in death, or perhaps even manslaughter, which could be hushed up, as other recent shootings have been of people in custody.

I think, the main problem is, all around and all over the world, that people have lost the human touch and understand only violence, copying their governments and business leaders, who think nothing of knocking off a few hundred, or even millions, as long as it serves their purpose.

Ed Deak.

Kind of difficult to instill a human touch into an organization that is trained to
deal with human beings with aggression, not compassion.

"He claimed, he had about 20 mins. of footage and when the police arrived, they didn't try to subdue, or talk to the man, just zapped him without warning. ????????????"<br />
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Another witness that was interviewed on CBC said the same thing. They zapped him about 30 seconds after arriving on scene. All the guy did was hold up a stabler then ZAP he's dead.<br />
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"He also said that he wants to publish, which means sell, the tape. Which may be the problem."<br />
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That much I figured.<br />
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"I think, the main problem is, all around and all over the world, that people have lost the human touch and understand only violence, copying their governments and business leaders, who think nothing of knocking off a few hundred, or even millions, as long as it serves their purpose."<br />
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Our so-called leaders are supposed to set an example yet when these people have been elevated into positions of power they almost without exception behave like murderous lying assholes, so it's no surprised to see so many act in the same manner. <br />
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Really, it's business as usual, the difference is that we can see what's happening so much more clearly due to mass communications that gets past the censors. <br />
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Look at the SPP protests, and how the undercover police were outed trying to start a riot - that sort of thing was difficult to expose only a few years ago. Another thing is that after the 9/11 operation, there was rush to "police-up", and that has emboldened the police to act much more aggressively towards anyone who did not fall in line.<br />
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At least one RCMP shooter wrote a letter stating that he killed the police in self-defense, true or not I can't say, but with what we've seen lately, it may very well be true.<br />
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Apparent letter from RCMP shooting suspect blames police<br />
<a href="http://www.cbc.ca/canada/saskatchewan/story/2006/07/18/letter-tues.html">http://www.cbc.ca/canada/saskatchewan/story/2006/07/18/letter-tues.html</a><br />
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He says he was so startled at being placed under arrest that he fled. During the chase that followed, the writer complains that police "would ram me hard, hoping to spin me out of control, hoping that I would roll."<br />
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When he eventually stopped, the writer says, the Mounties started firing at him. "They wanted to kill me, to hush me about their dirty work."

Wander through here and let the evidence speak for its self<br />
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<a href="http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rlz=1T4GGIG_enCA240CA240&q=+Royal+Canadian+Mounted+Police+break+the+law">http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rlz=1T4GGIG_enCA240CA240&q=+Royal+Canadian+Mounted+Police+break+the+law</a><p>---<br>"When I tell the truth, it is not for the sake of convincing those who do not know it, but for the sake of defending those that do."<br />
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William Blake<br />
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I like this site the best<br />
<a href="http://www.mountieshop.com/rcmp_today.asp">http://www.mountieshop.com/rcmp_today.asp</a><br />
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"The Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) has become a symbol of Canada to the world and a point of pride for a nation. Its no wonder they are looked upon that way since they represent Canadian ideals of peace, justice, and fairness. The world has come to know the Mounties through their rich history and through the stories told in film and radio. However, the RCMP are more than symbols and representatives for a nation; they are a living organization with an important mission."<br />
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If you look at their history section I could not help but notice there's (almost) no mention of the organizations colorful and corrupt history. There's only mention of the strike busting, and mass imprisonment of Germans during the war (no mention of the Japanese persecution which also took place) but little else.<br />
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In reality the RCMP is a paramilitary force, designed to thwart dissent at home, i.e., to protect the policies of the established government whatever that may be. <br />
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Upholding the "law" is an interesting mission when you are the law!<br />
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When you understand what the purpose of the RCMP is, then it becomes easy to understand why they are always involved in the one sort of criminal scandal or another.<br />
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The "good" we are told the RCMP is doing is just for show, and they are constantly at odds with it. They even tried to remedy their negative image and conflict of interest problem by splitting the RCMP up into CSIS and the RCMP, but in reality there's not much difference between the two organizations and there never will be until it's real mission is drastically changed.<br />

Interesting comments – all. I’m struck by the re-framing of the debate about the RCMP and tasers. I agree there are some fundamental issues here about police tactics in our brave new world of pre-emptive suppression of potentially violent behaviours, and I’m aware of the militarization of police. The new taser technology is an economic boondoggle for somebody, but it’s killing as many people as guns, it seems.

I am curious about the counter-spin in this story after hearing early CBC reports that the victim was exhausted after many, many hours in transit by train and aircraft from his home in Poland, through Germany to Vancouver YVR. What I find especially curious, is the absence of any follow-up discussion about the circumstances (context, if you will) in which the victim’s erratic behaviour took place. I hope the inquest and/or investigation will consider these factors, because I feel they are significant.

Anyone who is familiar with the processing of immigrants upon arrival in YVR knows that international passengers, often exhausted after 12+ hours in confined, high-altitude transit, suffering from biological jet-lag, and stresses of high police and bureaucratic scrutiny, who often fear they will be denied entry in spite of a costly, onerous, and rigidly scrutinized process, may behave in unpredictable ways. I would suggest that it is one of the most highly-stressful occasions in a lifetime. Upon arrival at YVR, passengers (sometimes they are unaccompanied minor children) are routinely held incommunicado for an additional 3-4 hours while awaiting processing. Officials do not usually respond to inquiries by anxious families or others waiting for the passengers. During this time, immigrants are offered no explanations, hospitality, or translation. They are held in a windowless, enclosed area, without access to food or refreshments. I’m not suggesting it’s anything like the “Riker’s Island” de-lousing and quarantine experience of immigrants in the distant past, just pointing out that apparent “mental disturbance” might be anticipated under such circumstances, and administrative policies (and policing) might take this into account.

That leads to another question: If, as our various governments assert lately, new immigrants are important to Canadian life and a thirsty labour market, why don’t processing resources, staffing, and administrative policies etc. reflect that? Why aren’t new arrivals to this country shown the same kind of concern and respect extended to immigration officers, vis a vis meal and coffee-breaks. It might give them a different initial perspective of Canada than the present police-state greeting, and it might reduce some of the needlessly protracted exposure to high ontological stress. A life lost because of flawed administrative process is simply too great a price – even if it’s just an “unstable” immigrant who doesn’t speak English or French.

"Sources - RCMP Fact Sheets 2000/2001 available at <a href="http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca">www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca</a> " <br />
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HEHEHE That is the Best laugh I've had tonight <br />
no self interest there, eh?<p>---<br>"When I tell the truth, it is not for the sake of convincing those who do not know it, but for the sake of defending those that do."<br />
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William Blake<br />
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Good questions, Jay Spark

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"When I tell the truth, it is not for the sake of convincing those who do not know it, but for the sake of defending those that do."

William Blake

Thanks for the link, I got some real good laughs out of it to! Those horse riding comedians are great, if you don't mind all the horse shit that is.