Iran Should Be Expelled From UN, Israeli Minister Says

The threat against the U.S. sounds pretty baseless, like many of the Al Qaeda videos, but anyone have any idea why a country like Iran which has proven it has no nuclear weapons and was already under threat of an attack from the U.S. and/or Israel after being named as part of the "Axis of Evil" would come out and state Israel should be destroyed with weapons Iran does not even possess?

Is Iran ASKING to be attacked or what? This could develop into a war where nuclear weapons are used on Iran.

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The midget, Bush, and that Rumsfield deserve only to be beaten with shoes by freedom loving people everywhere.

- Mohammed Saeed al-Sahhaf, The Iraqi Informat

The man was playing to the home crowd and regional sentiments. Understatement and the subtle are not a virtue in his circles. I guess it makes it clear enough for Israelis. Wonder how they take the words.

Israel should be expelled from the UN. Since when did they have any moral high ground to critisize from?

This is just more slander to prepare the West for an invasion.

Zionism (not the religion of Judaism but a secular movement) is the cause of the tension in the Middle East, and it has its financial base in the USA. Even destroying Jerusalem would not kill Zionism, nor would it kill Judaism, because more Jews live in the US than in the State of Israel (the de facto 51st State of the USA).

This speech sounds like "Carthago delenda est" (Carthage must be destroyed) by Marcus Cato, 2200 years ago. I think it is not important.

I am a little sick of Israel and their ranting over a problem that took place so long ago, please lets move forward.

Most people around the worls understand what took place under the Nazi regime and are getting sick and tired of the same old bullshit.
That is correct bullshit, Israel has been doing to other what they complain about has happened to them, to tel the truth I somewhat, agree with Iran.

Yes the you are right, the American "government" are looking at ways to invade Iran and if they do, this will
and might be the very invasion that end the world. Lets face it, how much more of this Yankee shit do you think other countries are going to put up with?

Sooner or rather than later, some country is going to get really pissed off and if they think 911 created problems, they better be ready for much greater problems. The Yankees are missing with the whole planet and why are they doing this?

I never heard any country complaining when that American asshole, Pat Robertson call for the slaying of the President of Venezuela. Where was Israel when this took place, crying in their own man made mess?

More and more people are opening up their eyes are viewing the Americans for what they really are. War mongers

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Don't blame most Americans for zionist supremacism.

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It appears Iran is attempting to divert attention to themselves. Are they protecting Syria from the Americans and British for some reason. Perhaps they feel that the Americans will hesitate to attack them because of their oil. That could mean their down fall. Now that the US has taken over the UN, Iran may end up having foreigners dictate policy to them anyway. You would think Americans would support nuclear power in Iran that would save "their" oil being consumed by Iranians.

"It appears Iran is attempting to divert attention to themselves. Are they protecting Syria from the Americans and British for some reason. Perhaps they feel that the Americans will hesitate to attack them because of their oil. That could mean their down fall."

VERY interesting thought. The sanction / war drums are certainly beating out their propaganda rhythm in the face of Syria, a much more vulnerable country than Iran. I work with maps, and having just published a map of Iran, the place is HUGE compared to Iraq, with a much larger population who are much more faithful to their government. The US is discovering that fomenting angst and hate amongst their population, towards their government, is not bearing fruit. Add to that, Iran is allegedly being armed to the teeth by China and Russia (in preparation for...?) The US military is so bogged down and spread so thin these days... the "insurgents" are perhaps scattered and slow moving - but it appears this is a tactic that is working. How could the US possibly tackle Iran? Would a new military draft, slipped through the back doors of congress, be such a shock coming from the present US administration? Yes, I believe this 'most likely' fabricated outrage from the Iranian president's comments is timed well, and a tool to attempt garnering international support for sanctions, at minimum. However, do you think sanctions would really do the trick, as Iran seems to be quite cozily offering their big oil contracts to guess who... China and Russia. Is a new axis forming? Bible scholars may call this a reforming of the 'King of the North'.

I agree with most of the posts here; the problem does not lie with the jewish community at all. As with most problem areas, the focus should be on the state and their mandate. We know that a lot of Americans are against the Bush Co. - so it's not Americans as a rule, it's the government that is screwing up.

Interesting newspaper day yesterday though... I noticed that both the main Vancouver papers had the Huge black ink headlines, blaring out the outrageous claim that the Iranian pres. had called for the destruction of Israel. Perhaps they will have to make a retraction. I've read most of the stories reported on the situation, and most seem to agree that the pres. was not making a personal statement. He was quoting Imam Khomenei. Let's not forget, he was speaking at a seminar devoted to the subject of a 'World Without Zionism' - that is, the political ideology - not the Jewish community worldwide or in Israel. It certainly has the appearance of grandstanding into a blown up and out of proportion comment, for the aim of fomenting hatred and disgust with Iran - is this a coincidence, as 1. the US the UK and Israel are trying their damndest to make them the new bad guys on the block, 2. Iran is perhaps the last big obstacle to the Caspian Sea pipeline project/s, 3. Iran has another large chunk of natural resource (texas tea), and perhaps most tellingly: 4. Iran recently announced its very grand plans to open their own stock exchange - the main stock being oil, and the only currency accepted for trading - the euro. You may recall the significance of this latter item if you are up on the petrodollar crisis. Quite a few countries have or want to change their petro currency to Euro, including Iraq in 2000, N. Korea, Russia and just maybe China. Another coincidence that the Axis of Evil members all had this currency project on their plates? It's fairly easy to see what will happen to the US dollar and economy if Iran goes ahead with this plan (now slated for 2006). Apparently, even Saudi Arabia is toying with the idea of a petro dollar switch to the Euro.


Zbigniew Brzezinski, former National Security Advisor, prominent CFR member, David Rockefeller protégé and figurehead for the Trilateral Commision lays all this out in his pre 9/11 book 'The Grand Chessboard'. Bush lied when he said 'they' hated the US because of its freedom. Read this book for the real answer to that question. Unmitigated gaul (but a must read, and fascinating..) flashes before your eyes while reading this, to realize that someone of this stature would spell out US global hegemony plans so blatantly, and eloquently I might add. I highly recommend this book as it will most likely open your eyes to the real chess game that is going on in the Middle East and Asia.

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>>4. Iran recently announced its very grand plans to open their own stock exchange - the main stock being oil, and the only currency accepted for trading - the euro.<<

There is more then one way to win a "war". Few of us endeared the "Hungry Thirties" and many experts say it will never happen again. Americans fear they may eventualy be considered insignificant in the world economy. They are the most significant, when the buying population is considered. Unfortunately the American regime don't want to be the "buyers". That would make them humble. Oil has replaced gold as the earmark for currency today. One has to ask if it will be, in the future. The "global economy" is hedging on it. Americans more so and that may be their downfall. The middle east is leading the world with a carrot on a stick.(oil)
The question is who's going to survive if/when oil is no longer considered gold. The American desperation to control the resource, may be to no avail.

> The question is who's going to survive if/when oil is no longer considered gold. <br />
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When oil and natural gas are depeleted, what fuel will the world turn to?<br />
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Coal.<br />
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What country has the biggest reserves? <br />
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USA.<br />
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"off topic" comes to mind.

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Not coal but water. Water was the negotiating element some years ago. I live on an Island that is a coal bed. Methane was to ooze from the ground but no one succeeded in convincing others to take a big interest. The BC economy was based on numerous coal explorations(mines) but no longer. The last fuel increase had found many willing to return to coal as a source of heat. They never bothered. Coal mines in my region are only surviving with maintenance crews. Coal has been a source of energy for to many years and already showing depletion.

Water is plentiful but not everyware. There are places already where water has to be bought. It isn't that long ago that plans were made to tow icebergs to areas where the water would be extracted.