Whoa Momma... Www.StephenHarperSaid.Ca

Posted on Monday, May 24 at 16:20 by N Say
I heard about this site on CBC yesterday:
Click here now:

www.StephenHarperSaid.ca

It's a goldmine for everything Harper has said/done over the years. Check it out!

Note: www.StephenHarperSaid.ca

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  1. Tue May 25, 2004 7:40 pm
    Well it's a Liberal website, and they want to know what we think about what Harper has said, so fyi, here is what I told them. We'll see if they respond, below is the email I sent:

    While I agree that Mr. Harper has a different agenda than most Canadians I also think he isn't planning to reveal the whole story until it's too late.

    The Liberals on the other hand are not being completely upfront either. Where do the Liberals stand on Canadian Sovereignty? What about the free trade the Liberals were going to rescind, and have not? Canadians don't want Mulroney's idea of free trade we want fair trade! The Liberals have yet to rescind the contracts they entered into against the will of Canadian people for the 2006 Census. Why not? Why would Canadians want Lockheed Martin to be involved in any way in our private information? What about the BMD system, that the people of Canada have specifically said they don't want, and yet the Liberal gov continues to be involved in discussions and continues to neglect to reveal the entire program it is committing Canadians to; why aren't the Liberals listening? What are the Liberals going to do differently if elected, why should Canadians trust the Liberals any more than Harper? The sponsorship scandal, the gun registry, the gst, the Mad Cow crisis, which they have yet to deal with appropriately, these are all issues which failed under the Liberal watch...these are all examples of wasting of taxpayers money which would have served us better in our Healthcare system and social programs, so what are you going to do in the future that you wouldn't do in the past?

    No I am not impressed with Mr. Harper but if you are saying the Liberals offer an alternative, you are not saying it very well. I look forward to your response to my questions, as election day is going to be my opportunity to protect Canada's future.



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    If I stand for my country today...will my country be here to stand for me tomorrow?

  2. Tue May 25, 2004 8:01 pm
    While all of Stephen Harper's points are good. The best is the one about how Canada is content to become a second-tier socialistic country boasting ever more loudly about it in order to cover up second-rate status - that's exactly what the Liberals are doing now! The Liberals will do nothing for health care except give you bromides about how lucky you are to have Liberals around to save you, all this while you're dying in health care line-ups! Increasing taxes to throw into a byzantine medical bureaucracy is hardly a solution for health care. The Liberals and their socialist friends will shamelessly use fear and bigotry to win votes in this election because it works so well on small minded Canadians.

  3. Tue May 25, 2004 8:10 pm
    <i>Where do the Liberals stand on Canadian Sovereignty? What about the free trade the Liberals were going to rescind, and have not?</i><p> <a href='http://www.ctv.ca/mini/election2004/static/issues/issues.html'>Here</a> is a quick primer on how the parties stack up on all issues. Under the 'Trade' category, the LIEberals and CPC say nothing about NAFTA. Suprisingly, the Bloc has more dealing with NAFTA than anyone else.<p> <p>---<br>"History does not repeat itself, but it does rhyme" Mark Twain <br />
    "The greatest price of not participating in politics is being governed by your inferiors." Plato

  4. Tue May 25, 2004 8:12 pm
    Yea, I still chuckle at that quote when it comes on TV. If Canada is anything second rate, it's because the Liberals put us there.<p> <p>---<br>"History does not repeat itself, but it does rhyme" Mark Twain <br />
    "The greatest price of not participating in politics is being governed by your inferiors." Plato

  5. by L. Ray
    Tue May 25, 2004 8:12 pm
    PALEESE!!!
    The Liberals are socialists, lol lol lol lol
    And here I thought that Martin had transformed them into another conservative party.

    Have you got any policy examples to support your point that they are socialist?

    What does 'socialist' mean to you?

    In return am I allowed to call the conservatives 'fascist'?

    It would be equally ridicolous

  6. by N Say
    Tue May 25, 2004 9:11 pm
    I submitted too soon! Check this site out too:<BR> http://www.teammartinsaid.ca/<p>---<br>"We can only see a short distance ahead, but we can see plenty there that needs to be done." - Alan Turing

  7. Tue May 25, 2004 9:21 pm
    Oh great. Another US import - When your party has no new or good ideas - The smear Campaign.<p> <p>---<br>"History does not repeat itself, but it does rhyme" Mark Twain <br />
    "The greatest price of not participating in politics is being governed by your inferiors." Plato

  8. by L. Ray
    Tue May 25, 2004 9:33 pm
    and somehow I think it'll turn against them. It just doesn't seem Canadian

  9. Tue May 25, 2004 9:52 pm
    What does it mean to 'sound Canadian'?

  10. by L. Ray
    Tue May 25, 2004 10:01 pm
    Read carefully please:

    SEEM Canadian

  11. Tue May 25, 2004 10:04 pm
    To be constructive, progressive, logical and polite - for lack of a better definition.<p> 'Smear' tactics will only serve to disillusion more people into voter apathy. People should at least show up to spoil their ballot if they want to send a message to Ottawa.<p> <p>---<br>"History does not repeat itself, but it does rhyme" Mark Twain <br />
    "The greatest price of not participating in politics is being governed by your inferiors." Plato

  12. Tue May 25, 2004 10:10 pm
    "The Liberals have yet to rescind the contracts they entered into against the will of Canadian people for the 2006 Census. Why not? Why would Canadians want Lockheed Martin to be involved in any way in our private information?"

    How did the Liberals conclude the contract 'against the will of the Canadian people'? When did the "Canadian people" express their will about the contract? Does this website propose to speak for the Canadian people as a whole?

    "Why would Canadians want...?" Have you asked them? It may not be as big an issue for Canadians as you think. The media don't seem to think so...

  13. by L. Ray
    Tue May 25, 2004 10:55 pm
    Strange notion of how government works.

    Our system -misleadingly called 'democracy, i.e. the rule of the people, gives you the right to vote every four years or so, if you are over 18.

    Otherwise the government does what it wants to do.

    That's the way the cookie crumbles and it won't be any different if Harper becomes Prime Minister.
    Ever once in a while there is <b>one</b> question the electorate is expected to answer in order to choose a government.

    I find it a rather strange notion if not absurd because government involves a lot more than one question.

    And the question is usually not very meaningful either.

    For example, Mulroney went to the polls asking people (whether they knew anything about it or not) to decide if they wanted "free" trade.
    What a loaded term to begin with!
    If there was free trade between the USA and Canada why was there a need for a 45,000page document, which very few people read.

    The Swiss have a referendum ever once in a while and some US states have voter initiatives but these things are often not very menaingful either.

    Example: California and balanced budgets. Have a look what it did to their education system.
    Do you really think most people knew that beforehand?

    I think this website 'speaks' for the people posting here and I didn't see any claims that it speaks for the Canadian people.
    What do you suggest?
    Limits on free expression?

  14. Tue May 25, 2004 11:13 pm
    I don't get these people who use the "waiting time" as an issue with our current health care system status. It does need to improve allot. But to use that as an argument to the health care system problem is just ridiculous. And to suggest privatization is the solution is even more ridiculous.

    Privatized health care in the U.S has waiting times as an issue as well. Maybe not as bad, but they still have waiting times in some parts of the U.S.

    The good thing is in Canada there is less people using a visa or a loan to pay for medical treatment. The waiting times can be addressed without privatization of our health care.

    Our health care shouldn't ask Canadians who can't afford treatment to go out and get a line of credit to pay for their services. And Canadians shouldn't be turned away cause they don't have the money cause they were fired a few day's ago from a company that moved to the U.S.

    Kevin

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    "Love actually, is all around us" --From the movie Love Actually.



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