New U.S. Ambassador To Canada Careful To Avoid Calling Canada U.S. Relations Str

Posted on Thursday, May 26 at 16:33 by sthompson
"The ties that bind the United States and Canada are strong. We are neighbours with a shared common history fiercely devoted to liberty and independence," he said. In his prepared remarks and in the few questions he took, Wilkins never used the word strained, or any other negative term to describe Canada-U.S. relations. http://www.cbc.ca/story/world/national/2005/05/25/wilkins050525.html

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  1. Fri May 27, 2005 8:46 pm
    I wish this guy, or anybody, could explain what the B52s have been and are doing over our house for the past 30 years that we know of. Probably a left over part of the H bomb laden "fail safe" madness, but the USSR died 15 years ago, yet the planes just keep on flying North and South, making a slight correction over the town of Williams Lake. Most likely the Russians are doing the same on the other side, not to be left behind. It used to be one or two of these flights of what we call the "idiot planes", but lately they're also flying East to West, crossing their flight paths slighty the North of us. On some days we can see 5-6 of them, today so far 3, flying in all directions. Some years ago I calculated that during the time I can see those 40 year old H bomb carrying heaps of junk, they're wasting enough fuel to run my tractors, truck and all other combustion engine powered equipment for 5 years. I presume the Echelon, or some other spy service is keeping track on this website, so perhaps they could answer my question, or start taking this insane action somewhere else. After all, Canada is pretty big and they already think they own our airspace and everything else with it. Ed Deak, Big Lake, BC.

  2. Sat May 28, 2005 4:56 am
    How about: if Canada had anything like it's own defense force, it would know what was going on in it's own defense, eh?
    Then: what makes you an expert on the current loads of B52's, no matter which direction they fly, for whatever reason, eh?
    And: if they didn't fly, how the hell does that mean their fuel would go into your tractor, eh?
    Lastly: you're defintely posting on the correct website for the Uber Secret Monitors to learn more about you.

    Remember, just because you're paranoid, that doesn't mean they're not out to get you!

  3. Sat May 28, 2005 6:53 am
    Thank you for showing us ignorant Canadians the picture of the mentality that sends those bombers over our heads every day. I'm trembling in my shoes, after having fought the communists for 45 years, when I realize that the new global guardians of democracy and free speech may be recording my words. I hope you'll have a good flight to heaven when Rapture comes. Ed Deak, Big Lake, BC. still Canada, in spite of the maneuverings of some of our politicians and fellow pimps.

  4. Sat May 28, 2005 8:19 am
    Actually this makes me wonder, from the story : '"The ties that bind the United States and Canada are strong. We are neighbours with a shared common history fiercely devoted to liberty and independence," he said.'

    Fiercely devoted to ...I think Canadians were fiercely devoted to surviving at the outset, mostly preventing ourselves from being taken over by the South. We gained that independance from both England and the Republic, and now our politicians are selling us out without much objection, mainly because our media has been taken over, and Canadians are left in the dark. There is more than one way to invade a country, it is said. We have a great deal of history which was not shared, and much of the history of the U.S. I would not want to share, some of our own is not too pleasant either, but I wouldn't call it shared history. After we burned the white house, we went on with building our nation, railroads, factories, power plants, (that we later sold out in something called de-regulation, so we could buy it back for more money but on a monthly basis), schools, peace-keeping forces, universal healthcare, the best in the world, great hockey teams to keep our level of violence to a spectator sport. But alas, that was our history, much of it ancient. So now we must rebuild.

    Ed I love your frankness. I would like to know the answers to your questions also. Are these test drives or what?

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    If I stand for my country today...will my country be here to stand for me tomorrow?

  5. Sat May 28, 2005 3:35 pm
    Originally, Canadians were devoted to remaining British at all costs (except for the Quebecois, who, like the Americans, wanted to create a new, distinct country free of the trappings of old imperial rule). Canada was made a country simply to block American northward expansion.

    Our shared history is of the US trying to build a society based on individual liberty, free enterprise and social mobility, and Canada making sure none of those made it north of the 49th.

    Instead of individual liberty, we embraced worship of the group and statism. Instead of free enterprise, we embraced Family Compact monopolism and heavy state ownership and control in the economy. Instead of social mobility, we clung to feudal elitism and pseudo-aristrocracy.

    Despite these differences, which are more differences between our elite classes than between the average Canadian and American, we're pretty similar to our American neighbours. Americans are more community minded than some of their rhetoric suggests, and Canadians are more individualistic than some of our rhetoric suggests.

    Of course, one thing which distorts the picture is the habit of nationalists making every element that differs Canada from the US a "defining characteristic" of Canada.

    Americans are aggressive and competitive, so Canadians must be passive and non-competitive. I don't see too many passive, non-competitive Canadians in the NHL, but hey, maybe I'm not looking hard enough. In fact, it's interesting that when you put a Canadian on a hockey rink (or in a singles bar, for that matter), he's as competitive and aggressive as any American. But in the economic sphere, where such competitiveness can yield real social benefits, we're supposed to be passive, consensus-seeking herd animals.

    Americans believe in the melting-pot, but we believe in the "multicultural mosaic". Well, the mosaic hasn't worked out so well for us in terms of developing a unique, distinct, shared Canadian identity that isn't based solely of fear and loathing of another country.

    Canadians are so nice and polite, while Americans are so vulgar and rude. Well, most of the Americans I've met are courteous and helpful, while I've met some Canadians who would put New York taxi drivers to shame.

    There are differences between Americans and Canadians. If there weren't, then it would be stupid to have two separate countries. But we're far more alike than we are different, regardless of what Michael Adams and his statistics say. I know that to a Canadian nationalist, this is heresy. But hey, it's a free country (most of the time, anyway).

  6. Sat May 28, 2005 4:42 pm
    All forms of competition increase costs, wear out and destroy systems. E.g. I'm driving a 25 year old truck in perfect shape, but when I competed in motorsport at the factory rally team level 40 years ago, our cars were built to last a few days and we wore out a set of tires, sometimes 2 sets every day. Some competition engines are built to last only a few minutes. The same rule applies to colonizers, empires and competitive economic systems. All competitive societies and empires in history have self destructed, as the present one is on its way. The purpose of economic competition is to eliminate competition (JK Galbraith), to collectivize systems into the hands of a small ruling class, not much different from the Soviet Politbureaus, and to divert the benefits from real people to the artificial entities of corporate shares. I've been in business in BC since 1957, so I do have a bit of practical experience in the matter and have witnessed enough examples of good, solid businesses being destroyed by multinationals with the use of artificially created overcapitalization, throwing hundreds and thousands on the street, stealing their livelihoods, properties and their children's education. How long can this go on? How long can people be fooled to keep voting in the crooks who promote these actions? I'd suggest, you go to google and look at the work of the American economist/statistician W.Edwardes Deming, also of another American, Thorsten Weblen, who foresaw long ago the self destructive effects of out of control competition, now a crime wave that destroys the lives of millions here and everywhere on Earth. It may be called by the false name of "free enterprise", but in reality it isn't more, or less, than the Soviets' destruction of the Kulaks. They did it with bayonets, the neocons are doing it with the perceived power of freshly created, imaginary capital and gimmicks like the BSE and softwood crises, so they can take over our lands and forests for a song. Ed Deak, Big Lake, BC.

  7. Mon May 30, 2005 12:50 am
    I didn't call you ignorant. I won't disagree, though. Fought the communists for 45 years, and never looked behind you, eh?

    Don't bother to tremble, those you wasted so much time over are now in control. To me, Canada does not represent anything but the result of deluded individuals in pursuit of ideals, who refuse to understand why they'll never be able to realize them.

    Pretty much a description of this site, and you.

  8. Mon May 30, 2005 3:21 am
    Well, at least Canada isn't bankrupt and doesn't have to rely on donations by Chinese communists to keep those B52s over our heads. So what will happen in the home of the brave, when the commies pull the carpet from under the worthless US Dollar ? One thing I can tell you though, contrary to propaganda, the USSR didn't collapse because of US military power and that people may have wanted to join capitalism. The real reason was the same that's now pulling down the USA : lack of democracy, political and ruling class corruption. There comes the time when people can no longer believe in propaganda and that's when faith based, corrupt systems collapse. Now we have the experience we didn't have 40 odd years ago and can document every step of the self destruction process of empires that go that one fatal step to far. As they always do. Ed Deak, Big Lake. BC

  9. Mon May 30, 2005 4:38 pm
    Thanks, Ed, for coming out so directly against "straining" relations between countries.

    Honestly, that post makes no sense, and I can't find much humor in it either... just factually bizarre. Kind of like the musings of the bitterly senile. I don't think it was meant as some kind of satire, or a parody of recent history.

    Let's assume the Great Satan suffers complete meltdown tomorrow. How long do you expect Canada will survive unscathed?



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