The Democratic Deficit At Home

Posted on Monday, June 21 at 09:33 by Tristan
Walking away from forty-five of positive debate and strong questions, the strongest subject of the night seemed to be the democratic deficit. When I was first invited to the debate, I was told that I would be part of an all-candidates debate. I was very happy for the opportunity. After all, this was my first election and I would be in a theater talking to a large crowd. Soon came the debate setup. I read over this document quickly and paid little attention to the bit about my being part of a second group. If this was how they were going to organize it, so be it, I thought. After all, I imagined they had arranged something fair. Soon I received an email from fellow riding candidate Asif Hossain. He was quite upset and pointed out that we were being made second-class candidates. Upon review of the situation, I saw that he was right. Indeed, the first four candidates were the ?ones most likely to win.? This was not right. Then, as we discussed the issue more, we realized that we were the youngest candidates as well. How dare they sideline us! Asif took the initiative to demand better from the organizers. Their response was disappointing to say the least. It is as follows. --------------------- Dear All; For the record Mr. Asif Hossain has made these arguments personally to both Mr. Brown and myself throughout most of this day. In addition has had his friend Adam (forgot his last name) call me also "deeply troubled" and further he complained to the SAC of the University of Toronto, the Vice President of which called and again made the same complaint. I have spent an two hours on this and I would like this to end here... but I also realize that what I would like is not necessarily what I get. My response to Mr. Asif Hossain has been: 1: It is our dance, we hired the hall and we invited people to come and dance with us -- but the deal is: we get to decide the dance programme -- it is our priviledge as the organizers. I invite the SAC, Mr. Asif Hossain or whoever else is interested, to organize their own forum and run it as they see fit. --------------------- That was not good ? the email went on talking about how even being invited was a compromise on their part. When the four of us arrived we lobbied the organizers directly ? pointing out how we had been marginalized, and how unfair it was. They repeated, ?this is our dance, and we?ll make the decisions.? Ah ? fair minds at work. They even suggested that we could easily be dropped entirely if we continued on pressing for change. Well, we could always talk to the first-slate candidates. After all, these were the responsible would-be representatives of our riding. I was able to talk to Olivia Chow of the NDP. I told her that we were concerned, and that we wanted to know what she would do on our behalf. She told me that she would ?defer? her decision to the organizers. What an activist! The Conservative Party?s David Watters had given me the same line. In fact, only the Green Party?s Mark Viitala had stood up for us. He was willing to help us. However, circumstance was such that the debate started just as we might have formed a final plan of attack. I admit that the Marxist-Leninists had a point with their idea to raid the stage and seize the microphone. We waited for the first debate to end. When it did end, our next set of fears were realized as an intermission was provided. Half the audience stood and left right then. David Watters and Olivia Chow took this opportunity to leave. Mr. Ianno, the Liberal candidate, also left ? I suspected he was running off like the other two. The four of us, planted where and when the organizers had planned, spoke out about the democratic deficit. ?I we never take time, how can we have time?? I asked of the audience. All four of us expressed our disdain for being treated as second-class politicians. We all talked about how youth show little interest in politics. We argued that if society wanted to include them, they would need to see options. We were youth, and we were being sidelined. How could this amount to an exercise in democracy? It is worth noting that we did talk about our respective platforms - and with a degree of dignity that was sorely lacking from the first slate. Our debate was civil. We answered the questions given by the audience directly and honestly. There was no lying ? no spin. The organizers threw together a defense at the end, explaining their weak position to the audience. This had been a failure to present real ideas in a truly open forum. The organizers had failed us ? they treated us with disrespect and indignity. Three of the first slate of candidates (NDP ? Olivia Chow; Liberal ? Tony Ianno; Conservative ? David Watters) were not willing to help us at all. Mark Viitala of the Green Party was the only member who was willing to put in the effort. He even had gone so far as to offer his time to our platforms, filling in for us rather than speak for his own party. I had told him that would be inappropriate ? as he deserved what time he had for his own cause. The party supporters (half the audience) departed without even hearing our opening statements. That was a harsh insult. Here were people so zealous with their party lines, that they were willing to occupy half the seats ? seats that could have gone to real voters, with real questions ? and then leave having done their part, supporting and mocking the ?most likely? candidates. I must note however that there were those who stayed. They applauded us all. These were the people that should have been given priority seating. There were riding members that had been turned away from the door earlier, as all the seats had been filled. Tony Ianno returned halfway through our debate to listen-in. Afterwards he told me that he would have traded positions if he could have. Perhaps ? he was under a lot of fire from the Conservative and NDP candidates. Then again, he could have just been be pushing for our votes in the case that we dropped out. When we were out in the lobby, a number of people came up to me, thanking me for what I had to say. Some wanted more info on my party; others wanted to know more about me ? the candidate. I was glad that these people?s horizons would be expanded. I just wish that all those who opposed our equal speaking rights could have cast self-righteousness and selfishness aside. I wish that more people could have seen the options available to them. Next election we?ll know better. The other two candidates who were on the second-slate and argued for justice were Nick Lin (Marxist-Leninist) and Daniel Knezetic (independent). I should also note that all candidates has received an email from Asif Hossain asking for them to stand up and take a stand in the interest of the democratic ideals we hold dear.

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  1. Mon Jun 21, 2004 7:24 pm
    Wow, this is really sad, and they wonder why there is voter
    apathy, it we can't here the platforms how do we know what our choices are?

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    If I stand for my country today...will my country be here to stand for me tomorrow?

  2. Mon Jun 21, 2004 9:45 pm
    Tristan - that was a real piss-off. Its happening across Canada and not only to CAP.

    Today I won one round. The local Chamber of Commerce is holding a candidates meeting in which they originally refused to invite myself, the communist and the Christian Heritage candidates.

    To make a long story short after hearing all their bullshit lines about why - I had some thirty people call them on my behalf and demand that they include me. That included small business owners who are members of said Chamber.

    In the end they relented and I won! I am now 'allowed' to take part in the meeting. I am in a bad foul mood over this, so I pity the Conservative, Liberal and Cadman for I am going to chew them up... Trade is my domain and that of CAP.

    I had prepared leaflets to hand out tonight should they have not relented. That was to go with the tape over the mouths of my supporters to symbolize the lack of democracy taking place in Canada right now.

    Hang in there Tristan and keep fighting the good fight - the truth always prevails in the end.

    Take care,
    Roy

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    If there was ever a time for Canadians to become pushy - now is the time - for time is running out on this nation called Canada.

  3. Tue Jun 22, 2004 2:13 am
    "The truth shall set you free."

    Tear them up like they've never been torn up before! We've had a corporate dictatorship for long enough in this country.

  4. Tue Jun 22, 2004 5:55 am
    Well.... who is in for a story?

    In fact I thought I had won, but after getting an 'invite' I was told I was 'invited down so we could tell you no in person'! How about that! I informed them that they picked a fight with the wrong guy and that I would be back in five minutes. (probably thought I was going to get a gun...)

    I did go home to get those leaflets - I left them at home thinking I would not need them. Thankfully I live real close to the meeting venue. I came back to find the communist candidate interjecting a motion from the floor to be heard. They tried to talk over her, but she got her message out. I started to hand out the "undemocratic actions of the Surrey Chamber of Commerce" leaflets and the crowd started to come alive. You could feel the anger, the support and contempt from those that wanted me to just go away.

    I WAS NOT going to just go away - this is my country, my riding and I have as much right to be heard as the next person. That also extends to the people who showed up - they deserve to hear from everyone regardless of where they stand - its up to them to decide who to follow or support - not the SCC.

    I too interjected a motion from the floor - but the chair tried to talk over me - too bad I have a strong voice - they stopped just short of calling in security - in fact he did call but none came forward! I worked for the same security agency at one time so I knew some of them. Networking....

    At the end of the meeting, each candidate is given an opportunity to sum up and tell their positions again. It was at that point that the second to last of eight candidates - the Liberal Dan Sheel - said that he wanted to give up his time so that Joyce and myself could be heard. Dan is a real man and I made sure to shake his hand in front of everyone and thank him on not only my behalf but all those that value democracy.

    I gave the most impressive speach of my life and brought the house down. The thunderous applause warmed my heart and made me proud to have taken the stand that I did. I was swarmed by everyone - including the media - even other party supporters wearing buttons, and all said they were proud to see what I did.

    Obviously the SCC will never support me because of what happened but I dont care - who needs people who act like the very communists they tried to shut out?

    I will probably get more votes tonight for being denied than being accepted outright. Thats karma folks...

    Sorry for any spelling mistakes or grammer - I am just a tad pumped at the moment.

    Roy

  5. Tue Jun 22, 2004 7:16 am
    Roy can you hear the applauding at your house! Go Roy, that is what we need passion, by God and sounds like you've got it...hopefully we'll see that on the news! Just excellent, I am so proud and I don't even know you, but I feel like I do!!!

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    If I stand for my country today...will my country be here to stand for me tomorrow?

  6. Tue Jun 22, 2004 9:15 am
    I'd like to know more Roy.

    Where can I find information?

    J Kirouac

  7. Tue Jun 22, 2004 2:52 pm
    As I noted earlier we are putting together a hitlist if you will of all the incidents we hear of. For myself - the Communist candidate and I are putting together a joint press release. I will ask Vive to post a draft, and another will be posted to www.canadiandemocraticmovement.ca

    You may also want to check out the next releases of the community papers in Greater Vancouver - if you can that is!

    And I appreciate the interest!

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    If there was ever a time for Canadians to become pushy - now is the time - for time is running out on this nation called Canada.

  8. Tue Jun 22, 2004 11:39 pm
    I just submitted the CAP press release on this
    hopefully it'll get posted.

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    If I stand for my country today...will my country be here to stand for me tomorrow?

  9. Wed Jun 23, 2004 2:37 am
    Roy, I wish I was there to help out.

    I have never needed a microphone to be heard, so keep at it.

    We need more like you.



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    "Arrogance in Politics is unacceptable"
    Jim Callaghan
    Minden, Ontario
    705-286-1860
    www.misterc.ca



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