Possible Forms Of American Incursion

Posted on Tuesday, April 27 at 16:43 by KevinGagnon

Permission to post this from Canada-Beware, one of our members here.--Kevin

What forms will an eventual US Incursion into Canadian sovereignty take?

Economic/Political Union
The most "benign" form of American conquest over Canada would come as a type of political and/or monetrary union. There have already been faint rumblings from various pundits in Canada around the benefits of adopting the US Dollar standard here in Canada. This idea will become less palatable over time as long as America continues debasing its currency with its ever widening deficit and monetization of federal debt. Over the next few years as the US debt nightmare becomes a reality, the American economy is far closer to the beginning of a secular economic downturn than it is near the end of one. While Canada in the meantime actually manages to improve economically over the same few years, by continuing to retire debt and letting interest rates find a natural level, the idea of economic union with the U.S. will be less palatable over time. America will be seen for what it really is, an albatross around the neck of the world economy and something to minimize one's exposure to, not join with.

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  1. Thu Apr 29, 2004 3:07 am
    The website this links to reeks of paranoia. Equating the U.S. with some kind of 'evil empire' is tripe. If they were so friggin' evil, why haven't they stomped all over the world militarily? they have the power, yet they don't use it malevolently. They could get all the oil they need for free by threatening to nuke Saudi Arabia, but they don't. Getting rid of the Taliban and Saddam are both positive events for their respective regions and the world regardless of the whining anti-Americanists, UN profiteers and the French. As far as their decline is concerned, it's a little early to write that up because the differences between empires of the past and the U.S. is huge, elections for one thing. Canada won't be invaded anytime soon, everyone can rest easy, the Republicans sure as hell wouldn't want another 30 million whining socialists who vote Democrat.

  2. Thu Apr 29, 2004 7:19 am
    'Equating the U.S. with some kind of 'evil empire' is tripe. If they were so friggin' evil, why haven't they stomped all over the world militarily? they have the power, yet they don't use it malevolently.'

    Just because they are not finished doesn't mean it isn't happening! What world are you living in? They don't use it malevolently? Say what? Sorry I hardly consider the illegal invasion of Iraq the wise and humane use of force! I know they are freeing the poor people of Iraq and giving them democracy...while I agree that being deceased is freeing but that democracy is a little sketchy...is it the same as democracy in the U.S. cause that is not the interpretation I had of democracy...go figure... ooooh sorry just whining again...

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    If I stand for my country today...will my country be here to stand for me tomorrow?

  3. Thu Apr 29, 2004 10:53 pm
    Buddy, open your eyes! The US has and still does use their military power malevolently! There have been countless times pointed out here, so you must take the blinders off now!

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    Dave Ruston

  4. Thu Apr 29, 2004 11:29 pm
    I read that someone in the U.S is getting allot of heat regarding comments he made. He said something about the U.S if they were to be attacked again, they would go into a military government.

    I wish I had the link to where I read this.

    Kevin

  5. by avatar arc628
    Thu Apr 29, 2004 11:57 pm
    Kevin,

    It was General Tommy Franks who said that. He also said that the constitution wouldn't survive another attack.

    I didn't realize it survived the first one!

    http://www.newsmax.com/archives/article ... 5048.shtml

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  6. by avatar arc628
    Thu Apr 29, 2004 11:58 pm
    Kevin,

    It was General Tommy Franks who said that. He also said that the constitution wouldn't survive another attack.

    I didn't realize it survived the first one!

    http://www.newsmax.com/archives/article ... 5048.shtml



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    If you don't like what you got, why don't you change it. If your world is all screwed up, rearrange it - Trooper

  7. Sun May 09, 2004 1:41 am
    Here's what do do bird said,

    " If they were so friggin' evil, why haven't they stomped all over the world militarily?

    Is this guy for real? The USA has a active military presence in 170 countries! There is 228 countries in the world.

    Imperialism at it's best eh. The problem with the US is that they are hated everywhere. And I mean everywhere. I have lived in the Far East to Europe and it's really tough to find a positive view of Yanks anywhere. All empires fall but an empire as unpopular as the US one will collapse hard. And it's coming soon I feel.

    Canada should distance itself from this disease and start forging closer ties with expanding Europe. Perhaps Canada could even become a Cooperating Member such as it is with the European Space Agency.

    Zimm

  8. Wed Mar 02, 2005 12:43 am
    <blockquote>Sorry I hardly consider the illegal invasion of Iraq the wise and humane use of force! I know they are freeing the poor people of Iraq and giving them democracy...</blockquote> ...and there you have it, folks. Next time you hear a liberal bleating about America's "illegal use of force," you can bet that somebody, somewhere, is being liberated from a tyrant.

  9. Wed Mar 02, 2005 2:42 am
    Hilarious paranoid anti-American rantings. If Canada were not located where it is, beside the good'ol U.S. of A, we would be in deep trouble. Our nation would last about 20 minutes if it just happened to float away and park itself beside Africa or the Middle East. In 30 minutes we would have a smiling 'benevolent' dictator who would be blaming colonialism for all the country's problems. That would certainly please a lot of contributors at this site, especially if the dictator called himself a socialist.

  10. Wed Mar 02, 2005 4:54 am
    Anon your the one sounding paranoid now. :-p

    """They could get all the oil they need for free by threatening to nuke Saudi Arabia""""

    That is a very weak argument. Most of you Bush admin lovers still can't answer the question, of why didn't the U.S attack Saudi Arabia (or at least hold them responsible) for 9/11. The evidence is there of Saudi ties to 9/11. Heck most of the terrorist were Saudi. It would be interesting to see the reaction of the Bush admin if Saudi Arabia were to one day say they were adopting the EURO.

    Not that it would happen, because Saudi Arabia has a big chunch of the American economy in investements. Without their noxius friends the U.S would collapse. The fact is some of you ANON's can't face it, the U.S decisions are all about greed. The U.S which is a corporate run country, will make decisions based on profits, not what is moral.

    Kevin

  11. Wed Mar 02, 2005 4:58 am
    As always, we digress down to diatribes. There is no doubt that the US is an imperialist nation, and nobody really buys that 'america protects us' crap. If the US were really that holy and democratically inclined, they'd spend more time and resources on bringing Canada it's democratic institutions, which, faulty though they are, at least exist. Instead it simply corrupts the lousy governing structure we have in order to capitalize. This is easily proved: find me one article where the US has ever berated Canada on it's governing structure (I mean the US government, not the bonehead press-although even they don't say much about it). I doubt you'll find one.

    Canada's hands are no cleaner than the americans, you cant justify 'doing wrong' by claiming 'we aren't as bad' or 'they made us do it'. It didn't save german soldiers from getting hung, and it doesn't hold water now. Americans have their own problems to deal with, and I have no doubt that much of the 'extremism' we see is simply the gut reaction, similar to the ones canadians vent when derided. Nobody likes to believe they live in a corrupt society, particularly when it means we are PART of the corrupt society.

  12. Wed Mar 02, 2005 1:12 pm
    I always enjoy your posts Marcarc. You speak so clearly, and your points are so concrete.

    Kevin



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