A U.S. View: After London, What Now?

Posted on Wednesday, July 20 at 19:46 by jensonj
Gordon said specific targets within Toronto could include the Rogers Centre, CN Tower, subways and commuter trains. Needless to say, there's a heightened sense of security on the Toronto subway system, which I expect to see in evidence during my impending visit to Toronto. In Washington, security troops armed with automatic weapons have taken to patrolling Metro subway stations there since the London attacks. Are Canadians on public transport any less blasé, by comparison, to strap hangers in Chicago? Will we be able to spot the U.S. tourists on the Toronto subway by their nervous expressions or will those be shared by Torontonians as well? The twin factors of the passing of time since 9/11 and no subsequent terrorist attacks on the U.S. mainland has led to a complacency here as well, perhaps one trait which we can point to as being shared by the U.S. and Canadian populations. http://www.rabble.ca/columnists_full.shtml?x=40483

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  1. by avatar Milton
    Thu Jul 21, 2005 11:24 am
    I think Visor Consultants was one of the participants at the <a href="http://www.wcdm.org/wcdm_home.html">meeting</a> that Anne went to. They ran the 1000 man bombing drill at the same time and places that the bombs went off in London. What a coincidence. <p>If Visor Consultants runs a bombing drill in Toronto or Montreal or anywhere else in Canada, another nasty coincidence might unfold. <p>What a coincidence that no one has been tried in absentia or in person for the 911 attacks. <p>I wonder which of our rights are about to become revokable privileges to protect us from attacks by strangers so that we can sit in our cells and eat our polluted food and drink our polluted water and breath our polluted air in safety?

  2. by LMW
    Fri Jul 22, 2005 4:38 am
    Would not be surprised if the CIA or other intelligence agencies take advantage of this by doing the same thing and blaming it on terrorists, if they were not involved already. Notice how McClellan talks about Canada not being complacent about bombings. Will there be a bomb attack now in Canada but maybe not from terrorists just government ones?. I know this is just speculation and you need proof and this is just hypothetical thinking, but there are people out there who will do what they have to, to get their possible hidden agenda in place. There were more attacks in London, wonder if Blair will try and usurp civil rights there. I think people have to be viligant about their governments now and keep a close eye on what they do and what they say.

  3. Fri Jul 22, 2005 4:55 am
    Well said! I agree with this, wish I did not have to be such a skeptic, - but since everyday we are losing more of our civil and democratic rights, what else can we think; when we take a look of the big picture of what has been happening in the U.S. and around the world.

  4. Fri Jul 22, 2005 5:01 am
    After London? Iran! Then China, India, Egypt...until we rule the world... wahahaha

  5. Fri Jul 22, 2005 5:22 am
    The lesson for the Americans, Canadians too if we're bright enough to learn it, is that a culture of self-immolation should not be promoted.

    The Left in Britain has been attacking everything British since the 1960's. It's the same story here in Canada, we've thrown out what it means to be Canadian in favour of multiculturalism and denigrated the great contributions of our Anglophile heritage.

    Immigrants come here and their children are taught that the white man is very bad - name the ill and the white man is the cause. If segments of what is left of Canadian culture actually hate Canadian culture and history, of course 'minority' students in our leftist public schools are going to pick up on this. Look at how the Muslims like to bask in the glow of victimhood, even when it's members of their community victimizing others through violent attacks, that's a direct result of the glorifying of victimhood as taught by leftist's in Britain and Canada today.

  6. by GM
    Fri Jul 22, 2005 5:33 am
    Another opinion well said! Once again I agree! When I became aware of the bombing drills, I felt as if I was living in A Twilight Zone.

    These military drills, supported by governments, major corporations, then the attacks on countries and civilians, superimposed by the media, these people gaining fame - the performances are endless... All of this is taking on the life of GAME PLAYING,AT THE EXPENSE OF HUMAN TRAGEDY AND LOSS OF LIFE.
    It's chilling to think of where the state of all this is going to take us!

    GM


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    GM

  7. Fri Jul 22, 2005 12:45 pm
    Presumably, since you are critiquing the left, you must consider yourself at least at centre, if not to the right.

    "...is that a culture of self-immolation should not be promoted."

    Personal responsibility is a conservative value, though not necessarily a right-wing one.

    "It's the same story here in Canada, we've thrown out what it means to be Canadian in favour of multiculturalism and denigrated the great contributions of our Anglophile heritage."

    Don't remember this happening. In fact I ususally associate the self-immolation of all things "properly Canadian" as a right-wing strategy. Keeping in mind, of course, that we were a multicultural nation from go, and to argue with that it is *you* who is throwing out history. Quebec Act. 1789.

    "Look at how the Muslims like to bask in the glow of victimhood, even when it's members of their community victimizing others through violent attack"

    OK, so the argument is: too long have "the Muslims" been free from collective guilt, when they so obviously deserve it because some members of their community are responsible for violent attacks. Their efforts to distinguish the criminals from the community is "basking in the glow of victimhood", but when the "white man" does it it's all about avoiding the "culture of self-immolation". Hmmm.

    Given that the "important white men" who brought us multiculturalism had to prevail over attitudes like this, nobody should understate their achievement!

    Keep that post handy, it'll get you out of jury duty any time.

  8. Fri Jul 22, 2005 4:38 pm
    So what is your point?

  9. Fri Jul 22, 2005 5:41 pm
    Wow, thought it was clear enough. If you're capable of saying "the Muslims" and "the white man", you don't get it and probably won't. And don't cry victim, people from lots of different nations, skin colours, ethnicities and religeons are are similarly incapable and need to be called on it.

    The related point: Governor Murray (first after the english took Quebec) refused to enforce the Royal Proclamation banning Catholics from holding office, much less the New England call to simply wipe them out. Canada has always been multicultural. The Quebec Act (1774, my mistake) was multiculturalism, and a great example of *Canadian*, though not "Anglophile" behaviour. The "Anglophiles" of the day were the ones basically calling for the ethnic cleansing of Quebec--claiming injustice, basking in victimhood and throwing tea parties in Boston harbour because mother England wouldn't go along. Colour of skin and ethnicity had nothing to do with it, content of character did.

  10. Fri Jul 22, 2005 7:48 pm
    Wow you're convoluted.

  11. Fri Jul 22, 2005 9:57 pm
    OK, I'll make it real simple: B.S.

  12. by LMW
    Sat Jul 23, 2005 2:37 am
    Well, looks like in the U.S. the Patriot Act is now permanent and Blair is looking to do the same thing in England by "Strengthening" terrorism laws. Looks like we are on the way to totalitarinism where anyone who will speak out against governments will be deemed a terrorist. This fear mongering is what the Nazi's did when they came to power. I guess people don't learn from history. If ordinary citizens don't care about their rights or the rights of others then they deserve to have past history repeated on them.

  13. by LMW
    Sat Jul 23, 2005 2:48 am
    That your a RACIST.. you would fit in nice circa Nazi Germany, just change Muslim to Jew. The nazi party was very good at brainwashing people to hate the Jews, just like you have been, although it is modern day government. You must have a tiny brain, can't think for itself. You know I could convince you that jumping off a cliff would be good for your health and you would believe it.

  14. Sat Jul 23, 2005 6:39 am
    Perhaps you're ill-informed. The Jews never called for 'rivers of blood' and 'body parts' to be spilled at any time before or during WWII. Islamic extremists however are quite open about it, even Imams that live here in Canada have been calling for blood to be spilled and Muslims in Canada regularly applaud terror attacks. That's a huge difference between these two groups, you should learn a little history and try to keep up with current events if you are able.



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