P3 Boondoggle Aka Gun Registry

That's an excellent article.

I truly believe that if Canadians get fooled as it seems they will. Electing a Harper government will mean the National Riffle Assocation (NRA) will be in Canada within a year or two.

These extreme right wing conservatives need to be shipped to the United States A.S.A.P. and make sure they live in a neighborhood where people have the right to bare arms. Let's see if they change their idea that Canadians should have the right to bare arm of a hand gun once they live in a society that has that right.

Kevin

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Yea, I saw that load of FUD over at CDM too. I'll use the term pre-Lapine and Post-Lapine for legislation introduced after the Montreal Massacre.<p> From the Article: <i> It wasn’t like Canada did not have gun control, while handguns and automatic weapons were ‘restricted’ in Canada,</i><p> No, handguns were not restricted until pre-Lapine. Automatic weapons required a special 'collector' license, and you could only get a collector license if you already owned automatic weapons.<p> <i> any Canadian owning a rifle or shotgun had to possess a FAC, a firearms registration license. </i><p> Incorrect. You only needed an FAC to purchase them pre-Lapine. Once you owned them, they were yours. Post lapine, you need a POL to purchase ammo.<p> <i>You just didn’t need it to purchase rifles or shotguns. This licensing procedure was introduced under the Trudeau Liberals initially as part of the national gun control legislation.</i><p> Incorrect again. You required an FAC to purchase anything other than a pellet, BB gun, or Bow.<p> <i>The local police issued an FAC, after you showed a birth certificate, a driver’s license and were fingerprinted. It allowed you to purchase and collect non-restricted weapons. A special collectors license was issued in the same way, to gun collectors.</i><p> *sigh*. To get an FAC, you did not have to be fingerprinted ethier pre-Lapine or post-Lapine. I had an FAC from the time I was 14, before I had a learners permit. Current licensing requires having a POL (posession only license) or a PAL (Possesion/Acquire License) and all that is required is a validated picture of you, which can be purchased anywhere they do passport photos, like your local vehicle registry. Again, automatic weapons are illegal without a special license as above.<p><p>---<br>"History does not repeat itself, but it does rhyme" Mark Twain <br />
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Dr Caleb, it's good that you know the ins and outs of gun registration policies and procedures history. The reason I posted the article was to illustrate that the cost over runs were due to it being a P3 (Private public partnership), the intent was to show that P3's don't work.

Absolutely! I just wanted to set a couple of the facts straight, not that it mattered to the entire article.<p> I kinda suspected their reasons for the overruns, being very familiar with the IT industry, I know how places like EDS and SHL approach Government contracts (I worked for SHL for a couple years before they got bought and split into IBM and Telus). They contract for a specific job, and if you change the job, you have to re-negotiate the contract.<p> The way it should be done, and is done in normal businesses, is to define the scope of the job, and sic programmers on it. Programmers that work in-house are a fixed rate asset, you keep paying them, and they keep coding. If you contract that out, and change the contract you pay through the nose for it.<p> Right now I keep track of 200 million parts, and pieces of equipment and their histories using a couple IBM AS/400's. Given far far less than $1 billion and a team of Uber N1Nj4 (ninja) coders with full code-fu gear, I could have built a much better gun registry.<p> <p>---<br>"History does not repeat itself, but it does rhyme" Mark Twain <br />
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The thing about the gun registry is that although it certainly cost us in dollars spent, what did we get for our money; people don't register machettees(spelling?) or any other form of knife, but they kill with them, criminals don't register the guns before they use them, so how are we safer with this registry? The police say they like to know if there is a gun in the house when they answer a call, ok, but as I said who is in the house? then after you figure that out, did they register their weapon of choice?

It is all very strange logic here, but a great way to waste our money...some politician said if it saved one life it would be worth it, well what if we used the money for healthcare instead, where we know we can save lots of lives, would that be worth it?

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