Martin's U.S. Speech Draws Fire

Posted on Sunday, October 09 at 13:02 by jensonj
"Yes, I did a tough speech," Mr. Martin told reporters yesterday in Montreal. "But it had to be said, it had to be done. We [and the United States] are close friends and you've got to be able to tell your close friends the truth." The extent to which Mr. Martin's government is treading a delicate line became immediately apparent in Question Period. In response to a question from B.C. New Democrat Libby Davies, Finance Minister Ralph Goodale denied any linkage had been made. "The Prime Minister did not make a linkage between softwood and energy, but he did make the point that NAFTA itself is drawn into question when NAFTA's rules are obviously ignored," Mr. Goodale said. Revenue Minister John McCallum said virtually the same thing in an interview outside the House of Commons. Elsewhere, the speech was broadly interpreted as constituting both linkage and a threat. Reaction from business leaders was swift and negative. "It's nonsensical," said Jack Mintz, head of the right-leaning C. D. Howe Institute. "It's right for Canada in its own interest to maximize the price at which we can sell our energy. But to settle the softwood lumber dispute, does that mean we undersell energy products?" Anne Golden, president of the Conference Board of Canada, was equally dismissive. "The bottom line is a trade war would hurt both partners, but we're the smaller contender and we would be the biggest loser," she said. "We need NAFTA, we've done very well under NAFTA. It's not in Canada's interest to abandon it." Experts on North American trade said Mr. Martin's speech should be viewed as an attention-getter only, because the North American free-trade agreement explicitly guarantees free trade in energy, and particularly in times of shortage. "In many ways you could argue that [Mr. Martin's speech] is exactly the opposite of the one portion of the trade agreement that deals with energy," said Robert Pastor, director of the Center for North American Studies at American University in Washington. "Instead of opening up at a moment of global energy shortage, Canada is threatening to restrict access." John Manley, who headed the Canada-U.S. file during his time as deputy prime minister in Jean Chrétien's government, strongly supported the Prime Minister's New York foray. "I think we needed to get the attention of the U.S. government at the highest levels, to the degree of frustration that exists in Canada about this," Mr. Manley said, "and that many of us who believe that improved relations are important, can't stand by and say this doesn't matter, because it does." NAFTA's highest panel ruled in August that imposing tariffs on Canadian lumber violates U.S. trade law. Under the treaty, the panel is intended to be the arbiter of last resort in any dispute. The United States has said it will ignore the ruling, and points to a more recent World Trade Organization ruling in its favour. The Opposition sent mixed messages. Conservative Leader Stephen Harper called Mr. Martin's speech a "watered-down" version of one Mr. Harper gave in Halifax a month ago. In that talk, Mr. Harper raised questions about the future of NAFTA, deviating from traditional Conservative policy. Peter MacKay, Mr. Harper's deputy, decried the linkage of softwood and energy yesterday as "a very dangerous thing to do." Mr. MacKay urged the government to "get back to diplomacy at the highest levels." http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/TPStory/LAC/20051008/OIL08/TPNational/Canada [Proofreader's note: this article was edited for spelling and typos on October 11, 2005]

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  1. Sun Oct 09, 2005 9:16 pm
    What's with MacKay! He is so stuck on making the US happy. Martin suggests that NAFTA is actualy NAFT. It has been NAFT as far as softwood is concerned, for several years. Martin did not suggest specifically oil. It's assumed by those cringing in fear that this precious stuff won't be available as part of the NAFT. The "free" in NAFT is also at stake and so is the "NA" in NAT. That leaves the big "T". MacKay is terrified that his brother Americans will have very little "T" left with Canada. Martin is suggesting there is T left with the rest of the world and the Americans can do with NAFTA what they will. Canada is just quicker to spell it out.

  2. Sun Oct 09, 2005 11:53 pm
    Take note of just who is "upset". It's the usual sellout crowd. Their attitude disgusts me - "So what if they don't adhere to trade rules they helped write, just don't stand up for ourselves - that might make them upset"

    They are so self serving and self-centred it is truly disgusting. It could not be more clear that the Conservative party intends to undue all that the Liberals have done, go back to Mulroney-esc policies, and make Canada the 51st state. Remember Harper crying to the US media about Canada not joining the illegal war? He hardly ever opens his mouth about that little event now.

    Fear not though, Canadians are not a stupid bunch, the Conservative party - aka - Dog Chow Party - aka - Canadian Republican Party, are not in most Canadians to be voted for list. Sure out West they will still win on their falsehoods of Western Alienation, and the "Beltway" domination and anti-Quebec hostility, but Canada is still a democracy. And after all the votes are counted they will still be the runners-up. And thank non-Diebold voting for that.

  3. Mon Oct 10, 2005 2:12 am
    "Sure out West they will still win on their falsehoods of Western Alienation, and the "Beltway" domination and anti-Quebec hostility, but Canada is still a democracy.
    "I am not sure in BC, where I live, that Harper is impressing many. Gordon Campbell may be pro American, and I may never understand why he was voted in, but I don't think residents are. Harper may be thinking that kissing the American butt is postulated if wanting to be PM.

  4. Mon Oct 10, 2005 3:30 am
    <p>Is this for real. Mr. Harper opposing NAFTA? Really? <blockquote> Leader Stephen Harper called Mr. Martin's speech a "watered-down" version of one Mr. Harper gave in Halifax a month ago. In that talk, Mr. Harper raised questions about the future of NAFTA, deviating from traditional Conservative policy.</blockquote> <p>---<br>Acoustic Guitar: This machine will kill facist.- Woody Guthrie

  5. Mon Oct 10, 2005 5:22 am
    I read that as well, but then I remembered who I was dealing with. Harper and team are sinking in the polls and cannot defeat an openly weak and corrupt Liberal party. They know most Canadians are either against NAFTA or want something done about it. hence his lip-service to it. I don't believe a word of it. When push comes to shove, Harper would don the kneepads and say "How would you like that george?"

  6. Mon Oct 10, 2005 5:23 am
    > "Yes, I did a tough speech," Mr. Martin told reporters yesterday in Montreal.

    Tough? Too bad not many Americans heard, or of those few, cared.

    Tough.

  7. Mon Oct 10, 2005 5:29 am
    No surprises here, while everyone tries to backpeddle, but the question for me is, what did he mean by tough? Was it tough for him to deliver it, tough for them to hear, tough for his party to respond, tough for who?

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    If I stand for my country today...will my country be here to stand for me tomorrow?

  8. Mon Oct 10, 2005 1:24 pm
    Martin is in a minority position, Gomery is coming out and will show he was either corrupt or 'out of the loop'. He po'd right wingers when he struck the deal with the NDP to cancel planned corporate tax cuts, and apparantly now will po 'moderates' by bringing in the tax cuts anyway. Now he's beefing up the military and signing on board with the US on practically every policy. All this means that those who nonchalantly claim that "people" will somehow "see through" the conservatives on election day should think again. It all comes down to Ontario and just go look at the ridings, in most the liberals just barely won. We could EASILY see a conservative, even majority, government. That's reality.

    Remember also, that just only half of canadians bother voting federally, and I would suspect that after the past decade of liberal 'pro business/pro rich' budgets, a good percentage of NDP and 'fringe' voters know bloody well that there's no point bothering to cast their vote. That's speculation, but I'm pretty politically attentive and I often think that.

    As for the article, what I thought was funny was how the US is breaking NAFTA resolutions, but when Canada says it may affect energy policy, the criticism is claimed that NAFTA guarantees energy trade. Duh, that's the whole point, they break it, we break it.

    What's especially funny to see is how the various groups react. Howe tries to play it at a macro-economic level: if you lose money in one sector you don't want to lose it in two. That's pretty funny as well, like nobody else would buy oil!

    So Martin knows that he better show some balls somewhere, or he is going to be history. And I disagree with the above comment that "nobody is listening". In politics people are ALWAYS listening because you never know what can happen, and big money is at stake. Perhaps joe in the street isn't paying attention because a football game is on, but that's normal. Those in power ALWAYS pay attention, that's how they keep the money and power.

  9. Mon Oct 10, 2005 4:32 pm
    Speaking of Harper. I find it interesting that he is so in line with the Republican party ideologies. I see Harper as a threat to the idea of seperation of church and state, just as the Republicans are a threat to that idea in America. This is especially obvious with human right issues. I mean they all sound like the same people who said slavery, racial profiling were o.k. in society. Just today their fighting a different minority issue.

    Why do they want to bring us back to those times? Didn't the western world start to get away from all that ruling empire ideas? And now they want to bring us back.

    Kevin

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    Acoustic Guitar: This machine will kill facist.- Woody Guthrie

  10. Mon Oct 10, 2005 5:13 pm
    Don't get too hopeful about Harper opposing NAFTA Kev.

    Conservatives have a history of disliking it to get elected, then reversing their views.


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    "If you must kill a man, it costs you nothing to be polite about it." Winston Churchill



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