Independent Task Force On North America

Posted on Tuesday, June 21 at 12:06 by jensonj
Christine Romans has the report. (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) CHRISTINE ROMANS, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): On Capitol Hill, testimony calling for Americans to start thinking like citizens of North America and treat the U.S., Mexico and Canada like one big country. ROBERT PASTOR, IND. TASK FORCE ON NORTH AMERICA: The best way to secure the United States today is not at our two borders with Mexico and Canada, but at the borders of North America as a whole. ROMANS: That's the view in a report called "Building a North American Community." It envisions a common border around the U.S., Mexico and Canada in just five years, a border pass for residents of the three countries, and a freer flow of goods and people. Task force member Robert Pastor. PASTOR: What we hope to accomplish by 2010 is a common external tariff which will mean that goods can move easily across the border. We want a common security perimeter around all of North America, so as to ease the travel of people within North America. ROMANS: Buried in 49 pages of recommendations from the task force, the brief mention, "We must maintain respect for each other's sovereignty." But security experts say folding Mexico and Canada into the U.S. is a grave breach of that sovereignty. FRANK GAFFNEY, CENTER FOR SECURITY POLICY: That's what would happen if anybody serious were to embrace this strategy for homogenizing the United States and its sovereignty with the very different systems existing today in Canada and Mexico. ROMANS: Especially considering Mexico's problems with drug trafficking, human smuggling and poverty. Critics say the country is just too far behind the U.S. and Canada to be included in a so-called common community. But the task force wants military and law enforcement cooperation between all three countries. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Indeed, an exchange of personnel that bring Canadians and Mexicans into the Department of Homeland Security. ROMANS: And it wants temporary migrant worker programs expanded with full mobility of labor between the three countries in the next five years. (END VIDEOTAPE) ROMANS: The idea here is to make North America more like the European Union. Yet, just this week, voters in two major countries in the European Union voted against upgrading -- updating the European constitution. So clearly, this is not the best week to be trying to sell that idea. DOBBS: Americans must think that our political and academic elites have gone utterly mad at a time when three-and-a-half years, approaching four years after September 11, we still don't have border security. And this group of elites is talking about not defending our borders, finally, but rather creating new ones. It's astonishing. ROMANS: The theory here is that we are stronger together, three countries in one, rather than alone. DOBBS: Well, it's a -- it's a mind-boggling concept. Christine Romans, thank you, as always. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/ldt.html [Proofreader's note: this article was edited for spelling and typos on June 22, 2005]

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  1. Wed Jun 22, 2005 7:19 pm
    The only good thing that may come out of this is the hope that at least some Americans are now getting a bit concerned about their own sovereignity. Something they should have done long ago, when their corporations started moving to Asia. Perhaps, some may even start thinking about the sovereignity of others, who do not necessarily share their opinions, or want to be absorbed in their political and economic systems, which is defintely the intent of this common border idea. The problem with neoclassical economists and neoliberal theorists is that they can not think beyond the next quarterly report, which then they call "bottom line". Unfortunately, there are no bottom lines either in economics, or history, only endless columns from which special interests take out figures most suitable for their own screwball theories. This common border is a good example. How long the EU will last is also a very good question the controlled global media never would dare to ask. Ed Deak, Big Lake. BC.

  2. Thu Jun 23, 2005 7:13 am
    <p>You perhaps already know that there has been varying levels of opposition to NAFTA down here since before 1995. What might surprise you is that some of that NAFTA opposition has come from neoclassicists! My understanding of that “originalist” point of view is that NAFTA should be recognised as being a treaty rather than as a trade agreement — and as a treaty, it constitutionally requires a two-thirds approval from the Senate to be ratified (with the House of Representatives having no rôle in its approval or rejection). As this margin wasn’t reached in 1995 by the Senate, treating NAFTA as having been ratified is, in the originalist view, unconstitutional, and thus null and void.</p><p>---<br>I am willing to love all mankind, except an American…<br />
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    — Samuel Johnson, LL.D.: 15th April 1778<br />

  3. Thu Jun 23, 2005 4:51 pm
    To the best of my recollection, the Steelworkers Union in the USA had a lawsuit going against NAFTA a few years back, basically on the same grounds, but haven't heard of the results.

    NAFTA, the WTO et al are criminal organizations. It has been obvious to many people who fought against these phoney "free trade agreements" that they have little, or nothing to do with trade. As you say, they're international treaties designed to curb the democratic decision making powers of elected governments right down to the municipal levels. The now negotiated and coming GATS will be far worse than anything we know of, or can imagine. Yet, many people in this glorious information age haven't even heard of the NAFTA, let alone of the GATS, etc. All designed to collectivize the economy in the hands of a few major players and dispossess all others.

    Mexico and Canada were the first big losers under NAFTA, but now, ultimately, the USA can, or will be, when it is combined with the rest of these fraudulent treaties. According to US figures, the country is losing an average of 80,000 well paying manufacturing jobs every month under the Bush government and now beginning to lose the brain jobs as well, going to China and India.

    The US Army saved my life when I was under the sentence of death by the nazis, at the age of 18, for "high treason", the US fed us when we were starving in Europe after WW2, my wife's parents died as proud US citizens and we bought our land from a US inheritance. I remember very well when America couldn't do wrong and was the dream of the world. Now we have the best American neighbours. At the same time, we had our papers ready to move to the USA in 1951, but in the last minute something told us not to go. We never regretted it. There's nothing wrong with Americans as people, but as far their governments are concerned....?????? How these crooks get elected is beyond comprehension. So please forgive us when we complain against their actions. We complain enough against our own bunch cut from the same ideological cloth, without being called "Anti Canadian ". Ed Deak, Big Lake, BC.

  4. Thu Jun 23, 2005 10:09 pm
    Re Nafta
    I'm starting to get ticked off about gas prices. We keep producing more gas every year and it's still getting more expensive. Canada does not have the luxury of a mild southern climate and we have a sparse population spread over a great expanse of country. I think its time one of the political parties decided to tackle this issue and come up with a plan on how we are to heat our houses and get to work if the prices keep rising. A Canadian rebate like the gst might work or nationalize the oil and gas. Does anybody know if one of the major political parties has a plan figured out to solve this?

  5. Fri Jun 24, 2005 4:22 am
    Common border, common tariff and the Americans are giving up sovereignty. Are the people writing this educated? Maybe its just me but, this sounds a lot like the politics of the Soviet Union. A Political system the Americans where willing to fight against till the last man for decades and nobody sees the parallels. “If we don’t learn the lesson of history we are doomed to repeat it”. Canadians and Mexicans should fight with all their strength to prevent being a neo-Poland or Estonia and the Americans should also pull out all the stops to prevent their country from becoming a Soviet Union for the 21st century.



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