Canadian Police To Be Given More Power To Snoop

Is the US twisting our arms (as usual) or is it being done voluntarily?

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Vera Gottlieb

is the pope catholic?

I'm waiting tosee if another submission is accepted hopefully it will be becacause it brings the big pictice into focus and focus the are, bigtime, economically, with law and any way imaginable

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"If you would be a real seeker after truth, it is necessary that at least once in your life you doubt, as far as possible, all things."

-Rene Descartes

>>Is the US twisting our arms (as usual) or is it being done voluntarily?<<

Are you scapegoating the USA for the actions of your own government ( as usual )???...

Our government is as weak as they come.Your government does not have to do much arm twisting.But!
Everyone in power is googoo over POWER to moniter and control.
Human nature being what it is,and cops being cops,we will see the cops doing more police state policing.I would like to see cops,judges,politicians and CEOs placed under 24 hour surveillance.We already have our cops trained by yours,and of course they want more of it.Law enforcement ya know,like Oka,Ipperwash,and Gustafasen lake.
The law is the enemy,those who know the least always obey the best.

The (too) long succession of Liberal governments have always feared the Canadian public (why this is, I am still trying to figure out), and over the decades have used every excuse to "gird their loins" against some imagined chaos they thought us capable of inciting. As late back as I care to remember, there was a mention on As It Happens (when Barbara Frumm was at the helm) of the Canadian government making a major military purchase of anti-riot vihicles.

This "terrorist" thing, (and it's concommitant use of today's electronics) is only yet another excuse to tighten these particular reins. Go figure!

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RickW

Clearly we are headed for a police state, This statement would allow them to force websites like vive to hand over user names etc, Why? 'The bill would allow police to demand that Internet service providers hand over a wide range of information on the surfing habits of individuals, including on-line pseudonyms and whether someone possesses a mischief-making computer virus, according to a draft outline of the bill provided to the Privacy Commissioner of Canada.'

This is crazy, what happened to innocent until proven guilty, don't you have to do something illegal before a search warrant is warranted? To have the power to listen to phone conversations, invade your privacy on the internet, to do what? Will they arrest people for what they think? I think this is a very serious problem, and there is no valid reason for such a change in our laws.

This law along with the LM Census invasion of our privacy, makes the situation even more critical. We need to speak out against this. I know the police need to be able to do their jobs, and we need to support the work they do, but preventing crime, is not going to happen because of this law, it only enables someone to sit around and listen to people's private lives without any reason to do so. If you use the wrong word, then what?

This environment of terror they are creating, is not something we should be comfortable with, everytime you write to an MP on these issues, the excuse is, 'every since sept 11, we have to take these precautions'. This is rubbish!

Everytime they say, 'the police will be given more' that equates to the people are given less freedom...we are not a criminal society, we have some suspicious activities going on, aka Sponsorship, but I don't see how this law will help us in that area.

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If I stand for my country today...will my country be here to stand for me tomorrow?

Catherine, we already were a police state. There are literally dozens, if not thousands of ways to track human behaviour electronically now. Bill C-36 (IIRC) is even worse than the U.S. Patriot Act. This allows us to be thrown in jail for know reason. All the government has to say is they "suspect" we are a threat.

--We can also be thrown in jail for "offending" someone in a "racist" manner by a hate-crimes "tribunal", in other words, without a fair trial. All someone has to do is lie and you're finished.

The powers that be know that the internet is our last defence against the global tyranny they are planning for us. It terrifies them.

Don't believe the B.S. that tyranny makes us "safer". Our government KNOWINGLY allowed 50 (!!!) TERRORIST GROUPS to immigrate here and operate here, and they claim to be reducing the risk of terrorism. Bastards.

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The midget, Bush, and that Rumsfield deserve only to be beaten with shoes by freedom loving people everywhere.

- Mohammed Saeed al-Sahhaf, The Iraqi Informat

No Vera, Israel and the Jewish community is pushing for this via the U.S.A. and other countries to "fight hate".<br />
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Only Paul Martin would have the gall to appoint Irwin Cotler, a former PRESIDENT of the CANDIAN JEWISH CONGRESS as our minister of justice--talk about a conflict of interest.<br />
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<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irwin_Cotler">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irwin_Cotler</a><br />
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Irwin Cotler is NOT out friend. Remember, lobbying from his very own Canadian Jewish Congress was what caused our freedom-of-speech restricting "anti-hate" laws in the 1960s--1970s.<br />
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<a href="http://www.ukar.org/cotler/cotler.html">www.ukar.org/cotler/cotler.html</a>

<a href="http://usa.mediamonitors.net/content/view/full/4217/">http://usa.mediamonitors.net/content/view/full/4217/</a>

"At the same time we will protect the civil libertarian concerns that are involved such as privacy and information surveillance,"the minister said."

Right, like that has been a concern of the governments since...when? I've mentioned this somewhere else here but it fits this post as well, the majority of Canadians are not terrorists, and are not criminals why are we allowing our government to let a handful of people be an excuse for them to put us all under heavy surveillance? This is not heading in a direction any of us want. Even the most heavily diapered of us need to think twice about what exactly this government is REALLY concerned about and think that maybe what they are most concerned about is losing the next election and whomever takes over finding all those pandora boxes stacked in closets all around their dark offices and the leasing of the "go to jail, go directly to jail" monopoly demons.

I agree with someone up-line that said our government needs to be under surveillance 24 hours a day. The closed door business they have been doing is now becoming our undoing.

4Canada/4REVOLUTION



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"And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music." Friedrich Nietzsche

.......all governments, but especially ours, ALWAYS say "yes" when they intend "no", and ALWAYS say "no" when they intend "yes". So if government lackies say that something is being done for the benefit of society, you can bet money that it isn't.

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RickW

<a href="http://www.economist.com/research/articlesBySubject/displayStory.cfm?story_id=4299106&subjectID=349020&fsrc=nwl&emailauth=%2527%252906%253E%2522LXCP0%2520T%250A">http://www.economist.com/research/articlesBySubject/displayStory.cfm?story_id=4299106&subjectID=349020&fsrc=nwl&emailauth=%2527%252906%253E%2522LXCP0%2520T%250A</a><br />
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"The new mantra (of Canada's military) is the ability to wage a "three-block war" in foreign cities, fighting insurgents while also stabilising restless civilians..."<br />
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In otherwords, the same government that bled Canada's military, in now eager to "modernize" it, so it may be called upon to quell insurrections at home.<br />
Just what "crystal ball" ARE the Liberals looking into.....?<p>---<br>RickW

I find it really interesting that the only newspaper(I have seen) to report on this is the Globe, wonder why? Also it makes me curious that this will be introduced in the fall session. Are they hoping Canadians don't notice?

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If I stand for my country today...will my country be here to stand for me tomorrow?