If Canada Starts Selling Any Kind Of Water -- Good-Bye Sovereignty

Posted on Saturday, January 14 at 11:18 by BC Mary
A similar scheme is presently afoot, to pump water out of the Great Lakes, bottle it in containers not exceeding 20 litres (5 gallons), and ship the product south. But here’s the rub: Even more disturbing, is the danger that Article 207.9 provides yet another tool for corporations to open the floodgates for bulk water takings and exports. Under international trade treaties like the North American Free Trade Agreement, water is understood to be an economic good. Once water, as an economic good, is extracted and sold for commercial purpose, no government or regulatory regime would be allowed to put a ban or even a quota on it. In other words, since Article 207.9 permits companies to extract water from the Great Lakes basin for sale as bottled water, it triggers the provisions and rules of NAFTA. Once this happens, there is nothing to stop a bulk water export company ? or consortium of companies ? from using the rules of NAFTA to compel governments to lift their restrictions on bulk water takings from the Great Lakes. To be sure, the architects of the Annex want to conserve and protect the Great Lakes basin against bulk water takings. But, the Annex also makes it clear that its regulatory measures are subordinate to international trade treaties and laws. In short, the rules of NAFTA trump the standards and measures outlined in the Annex. In other words, once Canada starts selling any kind of water, even bottled, it would automatically kick in the provisions of Art. 207.9 This would be the requirement to also sell off bulk water, to the Americans, with no quota restrictions possible, even if we, as a country, should run short of potable water for our own needs. The Americans have been screaming, since the inception of NAFTA, demanding that we give them water. If we ever do, we’ve then totally lost our sovereignty, and might as well give them the rest of the country as well. Don Faulkner Savona, BC dfaulkner [at] telus.net

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  1. Sun Jan 15, 2006 6:24 pm
    I see this as the future whether we like it or not . We have no control over this . I would rather see the water go straight to Mexico then to the US , as Mexico needs it more then the American`s .
    Our sovernity has been at stake for a very longtime , especially since the signing of the Free Trade Agreement .

  2. Sun Jan 15, 2006 6:28 pm
    First off I see the water going directly to the Western states . The American`s always cry about how we Canadian`s take water for granted .

  3. Sun Jan 15, 2006 9:03 pm
    Agreed, that's their plan. They wish to build a dam, across the mouth of James Bay, pump the rising water back to Lake Huron, take it out of Lake Michigan at Chicago, again pump it overland to the Missouri River, etc., and eventually pump it overland to Arizona, California, etc. This plan goes back to 1959, and is again gaining support.

    What troubles me about the agreement on bulk water exports, under the NAFTA document, is the provision that there would be no quotas, nor a total lack of ability for Canada to control these exports. That is the reason why no export licenses have been issued, indeed, there have been two moratoriums issued preventing such license issuance.

    And the fun and games are only beginning. Sun Belt Water, Inc., of Santa Barbara, Calif., is using a provision under the North America Free Trade Agreement, or NAFTA, as the basis for a multi-billion-dollar lawsuit it has filed against British Columbia over water that the company had tried to ship to southern California in super tankers capable of holding up to 75 million gallons. In 1963, a group of engineers called the North American Water and Power Alliance developed a plan to move water from Alaska and the Pacific Northwest to the southwest. Under that plan, a massive lake - 500 miles long and 10 miles wide - would have been created in British Columbia and filled by diverting water from nearby rivers, as well as from a canal that would have started in Lake Michigan and crossed the Continental Divide.

    The Americans appear, at least to me, to have an attitude that if they need something, well, they're going to get it, whether we wish to allow it or not.

    Funny thing, not one word of this has been mentioned, in the press, during the leadership debates, totally quiet, but, rest assured, what's going on behind the scenses is not going to bode well, for CANADA.



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    Life is a one way trip, make it a good one.

  4. Sun Jan 15, 2006 10:01 pm
    "...build a dam, across the mouth of James Bay, pump the rising water back to Lake Huron, take it out of Lake Michigan at Chicago, again pump it overland to the Missouri River, etc., and eventually pump it overland to Arizona, California, etc..."

    You believe this crap? You are insane.

  5. Mon Jan 16, 2006 3:50 am
    This is so crazy...

    We don't want your water.

    This is another myth that has taken on a life of its own.

  6. Mon Jan 16, 2006 7:11 am
    You know, it always amazes me how some people have to hide behind anonymous personas, can't show their real names.<br />
    <br />
    It's not crazy, or insane, and yes, Uncle Same does want our water, and are intent on getting it!<br />
    <br />
    <a href="http://toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20010610/SRGREATLAKES/106100022">http://toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20010610/SRGREATLAKES/106100022</a><br />
    <br />
    <a href="http://www.american.edu/TED/water.htm">http://www.american.edu/TED/water.htm</a><br />
    <br />
    <a href="http://www.ec.gc.ca/water/en/manage/removal/e_FAQ.htm">http://www.ec.gc.ca/water/en/manage/removal/e_FAQ.htm</a><br />
    <br />
    Do a GOOGLE search yourself, see what you can find, and don't just use Canadian websites for the information.<br />
    <br />
    "Canada is becoming a Third World country is relation to the U.S. These water plans for export and diversion leave us at the mercy of the American demands unless the Canadian and B.C. governments are able to resist the financial pressures. Decisions on water are 50% Federal Jurisdiction and 50% Provincial."<br />
    <br />
    <br />
    <p>---<br>Life is a one way trip, make it a good one.

  7. Mon Jan 16, 2006 7:12 am
    You know, it always amazes me how some people have to hide behind anonymous personas, can't show their real names.<br />
    <br />
    It's not crazy, or insane, and yes, Uncle Same does want our water, and are intent on getting it!<br />
    <br />
    <a href="http://toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20010610/SRGREATLAKES/106100022">http://toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20010610/SRGREATLAKES/106100022</a><br />
    <br />
    <a href="http://www.american.edu/TED/water.htm">http://www.american.edu/TED/water.htm</a><br />
    <br />
    <a href="http://www.ec.gc.ca/water/en/manage/removal/e_FAQ.htm">http://www.ec.gc.ca/water/en/manage/removal/e_FAQ.htm</a><br />
    <br />
    Do a GOOGLE search yourself, see what you can find, and don't just use Canadian websites for the information.<br />
    <br />
    "Canada is becoming a Third World country is relation to the U.S. These water plans for export and diversion leave us at the mercy of the American demands unless the Canadian and B.C. governments are able to resist the financial pressures. Decisions on water are 50% Federal Jurisdiction and 50% Provincial."<br />
    <br />
    <br />
    <p>---<br>Life is a one way trip, make it a good one.

  8. by Deacon
    Thu Jan 19, 2006 8:49 am
    Too bad we don't treat our agreements with the US the same way they treat theirs with us.

    If they can honour them at their own discetion, it's only fair that Canada plays their game the same way.

    You want unlimited access to our water? Sorry, we don't agree to that. Get your own. Oh you wasted it? Sucks to be you.

    Ah.. if only we had leaders who were worthy of the term....

  9. Fri Jan 27, 2006 6:37 am
    Luckily there would be public outrage over this--maybe even protests, although Canadians appear to be to wealthy to stop being docile. :( However Barlow and Co. seem to be leading the fight.

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    "A Liberal is someone who refuses to take his own side in a fight".

    -Robert Frost



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