Liberals Reach A New High In Lows

Well, I tend to agree that we`re moving toward an even more totalitarian state. The conservatives are no doubt corporate fascists. But alas, so are the liberals.

---
Dave Ruston

> I tend to agree that we`re moving toward an even more totalitarian state. The conservatives are no doubt corporate fascists. But alas, so are the liberals.

Just because you're paranoid, it doesn't mean they're not out to get you...

That f-word flows so easily from the mouth of left-wingers. It's like some kind of ideological Tourette's Symdrome.

All parties are , name one political party out of the three: Liberals, Conservatives and NDP that have not been involved in some kind of corruption either federally or provincially ?

Give me just one of those three Dave Ruston please.

---
Good government is not a party government

As bad as the military ad is, there's another ad that is just as bad and has gone unnoticed by the media and the public. The ad that suggested to the entire nation that Stephen Harper received money for his campaign by America right-wingers is unbelieveable. Without any evidence whatsoever, they fabricated this statement out of thin air and get away with it. Talk about a lack of ethics on the part of the Liberals, it's not so bad that they can pull this and that people will believe it, but that they can go unpunished for saying their opponents are openly breaking Canadian law in the middle of an election campaign. This is from the party that has already tried to bribe an NDP candidate in British Columbia.

No doubt closeted Liberal apologists and paranoid nuts living in their parents basements will soon tell us that the Liberals are actually right.

Can someone explain to why anyone would bother to vote for the Liberals in this election campaign?

---
"All great truths begin as blasphemies" - George Bernard Shaw

That "F" word is the root of conservatism, always has been always will be.

"The ad that suggested to the entire nation that Stephen Harper received money for his campaign by America right-wingers is unbelieveable"

Not from what ive read, read Maude Barlows book Too close for comfort, it explains in detail these accounts and is very starting. I dont even think shes a liberal (not sure). To be honest im sad that this exact point isnt being made publicly by the NDP as well, as well as the smaller fringe parties. This is a real issue and the conservatives appear to not be disclosing where their funding is coming from.
Unfortunatly the liberals are not running well this election and so this exact issue has not become centre stage like it should (not to say that the liberals are any better, but the sort of blatent opinions by Harper should not allow him to become the leader of this country).
nonetheless it seems that he might and that means that socialists need to work closer with nationalists and get our shit togeather, fast.

Only from where you sit on the spectrum, commie.

Wayne: please give an example of a race, age demographic, gender or religion that has "not been involved in some kind of corruption either federally or provincially ? " in the last 100 years.

I'm not sure what the point of these examples would be exactly? Then again, I guess you might say the same for the un-attainable standards you apply to political parties. What is the point? Are you saying we should ignore corruption? Reward it perhaps? I'm not following. That is why we hold elections, to keep gov't accountable. You may think there is some utopian system that will produce perfect government - but you may have to find another species to run it.

>>>That "F" word is the root of conservatism, always has been always will be.<<<

Calling people names like “fascist” or “neo-con” or even “WACKO CRAPHEAD” to invalidate their opinions is a childish trick and won’t help you to find “truth”.

I tend to somewhat agree with your point of view anony.

Bethune was a fascist , and was chased out of this country with pressure .He worked and died in China in the second WW. Today he is consider a hero for changing the medical system back then ,so everyone would have a fair medical system .

Not that I am saying I agree with communism ,but Bethune`s ideas on the medical front were most impressive .

This country and it`s ideas of what is a good government and what is bad , is so mixed up because the politicians seem to all lie just to get seats . Who can you trust ?

I must say this is a bit funny, Harper made the announcement in Vancouve that he would put 100 troops in the cities across Canada. Obviously that isn't to protect sovereignty as the numbers are too small, and they would be outside the city, on our borders if it was to protect our sovereignty. Look up martial law and see what it reads. So the Liberals were tastless to point it out, and now the Cons are retracting, we didn't mean that...well what did they mean?

The problem is that election act section 550, makes it impossible for any election promise to be kept, and therefore why even waste our time and money to have these parties run around the country promising us anything. The MP's have created the election act. Not one party but all in parliament. It prevents them from having to be accounatable to the people.

Fairvote Canada declares that neither Liberal, Conservative or Bloc is committed to electoral reform, and as long as they hold the power, we will never change the system. The people are saying they want to be part of the process, but they are being deliberately kept out!

So whether its a promise to militarize the cities, or take away legally registered handguns, or give tax breaks to the rich and further impoverish the poor, it really doesn't matter, they say what they want to the electorate, their candidates can say what they want, and in the end after election day, they will do whatever THEY want as has been the history in Canada.

The people get to participate in the pomp and ceremony of the election campaign, much like an audience at a show. We have allowed two corporate driven machines to run this country for decades, and people keep saying well we have to vote against this or that! Well what has voting against this and that got us so far? Maybe its time for us to change the way we participate in the process and vote for something, then maybe we'll get the change we are seeking?

---
If I stand for my country today...will my country be here to stand for me tomorrow?

Well first off you are most likely correct about more systems of government being corrupt around the world, but does that mean I have agree with it?

We hear a cry to have all guns removed from the hands of law abiding citizens, we hear about killing every day and yet we call for those who committe these crime to be place in jail, just because every country has killers, does that mean we should over look those who kill in Canada?

No it does not, so just because others countries are abusing , stealing and not being accountable to their people, why should we in Canada say , oh well if they can do that, then it must be ok for our "governments" to abuse our trust and the power we entrust to them.

I can only assume that you must be part of one of those parties structures here in Canada who feels that it just ok to rip off the people, well sorry I am not buying into that crap.
I have given my vote to candidates who have sat in my home, and during our talks they have said onething and once elected done another and avoided communicating with not just myself , but many other constituents. They are proven liars and not one but all parties have been involved in corruption, surely this is not what you are willing to put up with, is it?

You are telling me that it is okk to force tax people and then waste those tax dollars and turn them over to the party friends , while denying the infrastructure to which they were suppose to go , fall apart, this my friend is pure political bullshit and we should not stand behind any system that abuses its tax payers that way.

I stand behind not voting with the many other millions of Canadian who will NOT in this election and all because we are being managed by a corrupt dictator party system.

Surely you must enjoy the fact that I sign my name to my communications and do not hide behind corruption or a corrupt system. It must be abugger being a good old back room boy these days, trying to protect and up hold such a dirty system?



---
Good government is not a party government

Catherine:

I think that if we stop voting in this present system and the millions of Canadians who are not going to vote this time can come together, we can be a voice to recon with.

Democracy Watch, the Council of Canadian and other lobby groups should be building a very strong lobby group to push for political reform... we all know the pigs who are feeding now are not about to pull away from the table because they are lunching on us for free.

I have looked at this election and turned my self inside out looking for a way I could support voting. It not there, I cannot vote for a system that is not in tune with the citizens of this country, I cannot support a system that lets less than 2% of its population dictate to the majority, it wrong and it is very offensive.



---
Good government is not a party government