Canada May Host U.S. Missiles

Are the politicians so stupid that they don\'t think by aligning ourselves with the US in any kind of weapons system makes us more of a target ??

What Stupidity ! What Arrogance !



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"Arrogance in Politics is unacceptable"
Jim Callaghan
Minden, Ontario
705-286-1860
www.misterc.ca

Canada has to take some responsibility for its own defence, if we don\'t do anything we will become a client rather than partner in defence. Anti-Americanism may make many people feel warm, fuzzy and righteous but it is not a good basis for policy.

We should build our own defenses then, not host US ones!

Still playing the \"Anti-American\" card, are you?

I suppose we owe it to them to be dependant.

Go away, troll.

And as I\'ve said before and will now say again, isn\'t disarmament a better way to deal with potential missile threats? Can\'t Canada protect itself through cooperation on an international scale, not bilateral cooperation with our militaristic neighbours? The US refused to sign the anti-ballistic missile treaty just so they could do this. How does that make us all safer? An arms race makes us LESS secure--hello, remember the Cold War?

No american missile will EVER sit on Canadian soil.

I and thousands of others will stand in the way - get arrested - get released and go right back and do it again.

Martin is NOT the PM - he was NOT elected and should not and CAN NOT make that decision for us.

NMD should be a referendum issue. It never will be because they know it would be defeated and badly. Weapons in space and a nuclear standoff is not Canadian, and never will be.

Pissed and ready to riot,

Roy

Before the U. S. became what I consider to be our number one threat, diplomacy, cooperation, and nuclear disarmament were the things I was working toward. But how do we keep Canada safe from a U. S. takeover or attack when this type of negotiating is clearly not going to work?

Before the Iraq war I was a pacifist. After seeing that the U.S. was going to just \"shock and awe\" anyone or anything that kept them from their world domination it was two short baby steps from pacifist to \"GET US SOME NUCLEAR WEAPONS RIGHT NOW!\"

We either spend our life at the negotiating table sucking on a soother, signing over our resources and backing out of the room with head lowered or we go in with two big missiles in our back pockets and place them on the table. That\'s how I see this working for us under the current U.S. administration. Unfortunately the Liberals and Concervatives are going to go the sucking route. And help pay for the U. S\'s missiles.

The only way I can see the U. S. disarming is if the rest of the world jointly stood against them. And now that the Canadian government\'s trust rating around the world has dropped so badly, (CBC news last night), even if we did have a PM with the morals to stand up against U. S. weaponizing, the rest of the world is no longer likely to trust our motives for doing that.

That\'s also where these two sucking parties will continue to suck.

Interesting to note that today the Liberals were devided in the house of commons. There was some liberals who voted for a motion to stop negociations with the U.S, and there were Liberals who voted against the motion.

Also interesting to note that many conservatives voted against the motion to stop negociations with the U.S on missle defence. Of course the NDP and Bloc all voted for the motion to stop the negociations.

Kevin Gagnon

I\'m right there with you Roy.

What I can\'t get over is Pratt saying the NDP are ignoring facts around MDS yet he had no problem ignoring Bush\'s lies around WMD and backing Bush\'s illegal war on Iraq. With him as Defense Mininster we can expect our boys and girls to be sent willy nilly to fight wars using fabricated INTELLIGENCE and that will be justifiable to David warmonger Pratt.

One of the reasons the Liberals are going along with this in my opinion is now that the space station has become space debris Canadian aeronautics and technological businesses are likely lobbying them holding $ out in front of their upcoming-election-noses. Political Prostitutes.

4Canada,

Its still nice to see some liberals not in support of even negociating with the U.S on missle defence. I found it nice that one of the Liberals who I\'ve watched at the House of Commons a few times and didn\'t really like the guy, he voted against any talks with the U.S on missle defence. He scored some points with me

Kevin Gagnon

I`m in agreement with you there, 4Canada. I am not for arms proliferation in a perfect world, but when dealing with an aggressive US, it seems we have no choice but to arm ourselves.I don`t want it to be this way, but the uS has made it this way! We have to protect ourselves against bullies and aggressors, and not depend on a bully and aggressor to defend us, if you can even call it that!

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Dave Ruston

Just my two cents here, putting US military apparatus, whatever that may include sickens the stomach and breaks the heart of this Canadian nationalist. But i\'m no pacifist (well maybe I am, realist is perhaps the more appropriate term). The world is a dangerous place and while disarmament is a worthy and achievable goal, unfortunately, for the foreseeable forture the world will continue to be dangerous. We cannot disarm until everyone wants to do it. Canada may not need to defend itself from attack, but it may indeed have to deal with the fact of missiles flying overhead Canadian soil en route to the white house. Canada needs to rearm its military, and hire more personel. Sovereignty is maintained by force: that is the essence of the anarchical nature of inter-state relations. If we don\'t take the initative to defend and maintain sovereignty over this part of North America the Yanks will do it for us. We need to build up our muscle and do it OUR way so the yanks don\'t usurp our sovreign rights. How many US (and other) subs do you think are patrolling the Arctic Ocean right now? THe Northwest passage? It\'s humiliating.

On a more visionary note, the mopping up work Canadians are doing in Afghanistan is more of what the world needs: people with compassion to clean up the messes left behind by the world\'s only superpower.

You\'re right Kevin,

I had never heard of John Harvard (a Liberal) before today, but I saw him and Art Eggleton on Politics with Don Neuman and he was as against getting into U. S. misslie defense as any NDPer or Bloc MP. Eggleton was just a mirror image of Rumsfeld or Harper or Pratt. Art Eggleton used the Liberal patt response of...the U.S. is going to go ahead anyway so we need to be at the table...That response is such a lame argument that I have to think there\'s a hidden agenda for them signing us on. Otherwise what kind of a reason is that?

Kevin,

That was me talking about Harvard and Eggleton. Forgot to sign in.