David Orchard Debate With Rod Love

It's amazing how disrespectful Rod Love was to David Orchard in this debate....of course the moderator let Love get away with it. Orchard has such control over his emtions these days....I don't know how he does it, in the face of hatefulness and stupidity.

I agree Perturbed. The way Rod Love went out of control a few times, reveals that David Orchard is getting under his skin and proberly many others in the New Conservative Party. Rod Love thought that pointing out David Orchard's second place as meaning he simply lost. Which is true, but Rod Love is forgeting that coming second meant there were many PC's who believed in his vision and believed in not merging the parties.

You know what though. I was thinking and I wonder how interesting it would have been to see David Orchard as the fourth candidate for the New Conservative Party. Can you imagine the debates that would have went on. David Orchard could have got allot of exposure for his vision. I think he would gave Harper a hard time by revealing allot of truths about the merge and stuff. A answer we will never know is whether Orchard could have beat Harper.

Kevin

Ugh - I think Orchard would have had a hard time convincing his
followers to move to the new party, and therefore his voting base would
have been decimated. He'll do better standing off as a neutral critic
again for a while, perhaps as a relentless and very credible CP-basher he
can do the most damage to them of anyone, and this is perhaps
enhanced by his momentary non-partisan stance.

Starting his own party would look like a madman's folly and he can't
rightly join the liberals after the trashing he's given them for 15 years
(though he did join the PC's after criticizing them for ages). Maybe his
reviving the PC party could throw the CP off-balance and at least draw
media attention if not actual votes.

He won't go NPD because he has too many conflicts with the left leaders
and because he doesn't want a so-called "commie" support base anyway;
he has his eyes on the big prize and I doubt many well-placed politicians
in this country believe the NDP will ever take power (witness Sheila
Copps' decision to fight tooth and nail against the Liberals rather than
take an easier stab at the NDP in her riding).

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Flick, it's not really fair to use Sheila's judgement as evidence of an argument. She's not known as someone who does the most logical or easiest thing. She's known because she's tenacious and she refuses to give up on her vision of Canada.

As for Orchard joining a leftist party, is that plausible for a unified party with CAP and the NDP? Because Orchard's views seem to fit in with CAP extremely well. Any views on this?

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The CAP isn't joining with the NDP--the CAP wanted to change the name and so the talks ended in a no. I wouldn't hold out much hope for it happening even after the election.

I generally agree with you Flick--I think most people with political know-how, and certainly any I've spoken with, see starting a new party as just folly. You're right, he'd do much better remaining a critic for a while.





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