Canada To Establish Permanent Military Base In Persian Gulf Region

It's all about the OIIIIILLLLLLLLL! Canadian Evil Corrupt Capitalist Pigs! Canada! Bravely slithering into this position after years of howling about how wrong Bu$Hitler's "unilateral" enforcement of 17 previously broken UN sanctions by the USA and its minions would be...

meanwhile, "'No specific threat,' but Canada could be target: McLellan"....

One can only hope.

Well, at least this story got a reply <br />
I thought this article would generate a little more interest. Maybe we will only get good and mad about this in a few years when we start seeing this happen to our own soldier's and their children:<br />
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Service Men, Women Who Have Died in Iraq, Afghanistan:<br />
<a href="http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/content/news/photos/war_casualties/map/m10000.html">http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/content/news/photos/war_casualties/map/m10000.html</a><br />
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The Tiny Victims of Desert Storm:<br />
<a href="http://www.life.com/Life/essay/gulfwar/gulf01.html">http://www.life.com/Life/essay/gulfwar/gulf01.html</a><br />
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The war's littlest victim:<br />
<a href="http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/236934p-203326c.html">http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/236934p-203326c.html</a><p>---<br>These days, if you are not confused, you are not thinking clearly. Mrs. Irene Peters

Canada's hypocrisy is well known, unfortunately, the conservatives have well taken over the military agenda as well as the fiscal one. There is almost never a mention about 'getting out of Afghanistan' or Haiti. It's much easier to keep pointing the finger at the US, but there's a reason why the US doesn't take canada's 'peacekeeping' seriously.

Canada is becoming a horrible country. This is very angering and I am disgusted that the Liberals (or Conservatives) are doing this. This must be stopped! Canada has to stop being a hippocrite and start acting right!

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Alliance Atlantis: A Canadian Film Distribution Company
"A person who walks in someone elses footprints leaves no footprints."

From the Hansard:<br />
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Mr. Peter MacKay (Central Nova, CPC): Mr. Speaker, Thomas Axworthy, former aide to former prime minister Pierre Trudeau, says that “while Americans continue to like us, they no longer respect us”. <br />
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Among other things, Canada shares with the United States the defence of North America and a commitment to fight terrorism. Yet Mr. Axworthy notes that the government's under-spending on the military has now reached a crisis level and that within five years we will have no usable armed forces left.<br />
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How does the government expect Canada to positively influence our American neighbours when we continually fail to pull our weight in continental and world affairs?<br />
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Hon. Bill Graham (Minister of National Defence, Lib.): Mr. Speaker, I can only wish that the hon. member and all hon. members had been in the room with us just a couple of hours ago with President Bush. He looked across the table and said to me, when we were talking about the defence of North America and what we were doing around the world, “Your troops are among the most admired in the world. Our generals admire them. We work with them. We absolutely want more of you”. <br />
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They do not want that sort of rhetoric. They want more real assets, not words.<br />
<a href="http://www.parl.gc.ca/38/1/parlbus/chambus/house/debates/035_2004-11-30/HAN035-E.htm#T1415">http://www.parl.gc.ca/38/1/parlbus/chambus/house/debates/035_2004-11-30/HAN035-E.htm#T1415</a><br />
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(Guess Bush is getting what he wants)<br />
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> start acting right!

Achtung! Goose-stepping lessons begin at 7:00AM!

SOOOOOOO.Exactly how is this base going to be paid for?
Our military has nada for equipment/manpower.Although Canada did give over $150,000,000 to help out on the new Raptor fighter jet!Don`t know if that would fit into this.Hmmm.Maybe our military will Deep Integrate with the americans,then we can go on "Peace Keeping Missions".
What a hypocritical country we have become.

Say,are we not murdering people in Haiti right now?Under the UN of course.Whats in Haiti that is so valuable?

Domino theory. Aristide was a popular democratically elected socialist President with the backing of most of his people. Sponsor a foster child, many are Haitian.

London attacks underscore Canada's need to be in Afghanistan: Hillier <br />
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STEPHEN THORNE <br />
Thu Jul 14, 2:41 PM ET<br />
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OTTAWA (CP) - Last week's terrorist attacks in London underscore the need for Canada and its allies to take the fight to the enemy in failed states where "murderous scumbags" have room to thrive, says Canada's top soldier. <br />
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Terrorists must not be allowed to feed on the instability of countries like Afghanistan lest that instability be allowed to "come home to roost here," Gen. Rick Hillier said Thursday. "The London attack actually tells us once more: we can't let up," Hillier told a media luncheon at National Defence Headquarters.<br />
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"There are those who might say that by doing that we make ourselves a target in Canada here for terrorists. I would come at it this way. . . . We need to take a stand."<br />
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More than 50 people died and 700 were wounded when four terrorists detonated bombs on London's subway system and a bus July 7. Hillier said Canadian military assets were offered but not needed.<br />
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Headquarters also verified the readiness of its counterterrorism force, confirmed its Norad capabilities and alerted the navy on both coasts after the bombings, he said.<br />
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Canada has maintained a NATO force in Kabul since August 2003 and later this month will send 250 troops to establish a provincial reconstruction team under U.S. command in Kandahar, the new focus of Canadian operations.<br />
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The team will facilitate the work of aid groups, train police and help stabilize the area before a fighting force follows in the New Year.<br />
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Hillier said 1,500 Canadian troops will be in Afghanistan, mainly the south, by February. He said he expects at least two task forces and three reconstruction teams to rotate through Kandahar over the next 18 months.<br />
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Canada will also send a brigade headquarters for nine months, from February until October.<br />
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"We're not going to let those radical murderers and killers rob from others and certainly we're not going to let them rob from Canada," said Hillier, appointed chief of defence staff earlier this year.<br />
<a href="http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1845&ncid=1845&e=1&u=/cpress/20050714/ca_pr_on_na/terror_hillier">http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1845&ncid=1845&e=1&u=/cpress/20050714/ca_pr_on_na/terror_hillier</a><br />
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Casualties likely from new Canadian mission in Kandahar, says top soldier<br />
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Terry Pedwell <br />
Canadian Press <br />
Thursday, July 14, 2005<br />
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OTTAWA (CP) - Canadians need to prepare psychologically for the strong possibility some of their soldiers will be killed in a new military operation in southern Afghanistan, says the head of the armed forces. <br />
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"Is there a probability that we're going to take casualties? Yes, of course," Gen. Rick Hillier said Thursday "Can I give you a number of what we're going to take? Absolutely not." <br />
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Canada is sending a team of about 250 soldiers, along with Foreign Affairs officials, development workers and Mounties, to Afghanistan's volatile Kandahar province. <br />
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A small part of what's dubbed a provincial reconstruction team, or PRT, will begin deploying early next week, with the bulk of troops starting to move out, mainly from Edmonton, beginning the following week. <br />
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Afghan officials have warned that Osama bin Laden's al-Qaida network is planning Iraq-style attacks against soldiers in the region. Last month, an American PRT in Kandahar was struck by a suicide bomber - in the same area where Canada's team will be deployed. Four soldiers were injured. <br />
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Casualties are a reality of military life, Hillier said, although he doubts Canadians are ready for that possibility. <br />
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"No, I don't believe they are," said Hillier, appointed chief of defence staff earlier this year. <br />
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"But there needs to be an awareness across Canada that we're in a dangerous business." <br />
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Critics also question whether the public has the stomach for bloodshed coming from Canada's new role in Afghanistan. <br />
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"Kandahar will be the acid test of whether or not we can bear the price of our latest goal," Nic Boisvert wrote in an article published this week by the Council for Canadian Security in the 21st Century. <br />
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"It is best to find out now if we don't have the royal jelly to handle the task. <br />
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"It is going to take moral courage and political leadership. Are we up to it?" <br />
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Despite the increased danger in Kandahar - compared with the relatively safe haven of Kabul where Canada lost three soldiers in the line of duty - the military doesn't plan to change the way it operates for the PRT. <br />
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"Same, exact strategy," said Hillier. "A three-block war" approach, where troops focus on small pockets within communities to avoid getting involved in large conflicts.<br />
<a href="http://www.canada.com/national/story.html?id=7e6fd56e-2c83-4629-ad4b-a30f4ed5d40b">http://www.canada.com/national/story.html?id=7e6fd56e-2c83-4629-ad4b-a30f4ed5d40b</a> <br />
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<p>---<br>These days, if you are not confused, you are not thinking clearly. Mrs. Irene Peters

Military has to broaden appeal and change how it recruits, says defence chief <br />
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STEPHEN THORNE <br />
Fri Jul 15, 1:43 PM ET<br />
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OTTAWA (CP) - The military needs to broaden its appeal to attract quality people to meet hefty expansion targets in the next five years, says the chief of defence staff. Gen. Rick Hillier says the number of recruits is "somewhat down from where we want them" and it's time the brass looked at how the military sells itself. <br />
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"We're going to have to reach out to Canadians to recruit here . . . because it is not automatic that they're considering us as a career or even as a three-or four-year option right now," Hillier said.<br />
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"We're going to have to change our methodology."<br />
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Capt. Holly-Anne Brown said that half way into this year the Armed Forces had recruited about 42 per cent of the year's enlistment target and 46 per cent for officers.<br />
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Summer is traditionally the military's strongest recruiting period, said Brown of the Canadian Forces Recruiting Group in Borden, Ont.<br />
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The Forces are attracting between 2.5 and three candidates for every recruit, said Brown.<br />
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Hillier wants that closer to 10 to one, and he wants the army, navy and air force to better reflect Canada's ethnic makeup.<br />
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He says National Defence needs more savvy marketing aimed at narrower audiences and to capitalize on opportunities to enhance its image.<br />
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He's to meet senior recruiters next week to discuss logjams in processing new soldiers, sailors and aircrew.<br />
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The federal government has promised money to expand the military by 5,000 regular personnel and 3,000 reservists over five years. Eighty per cent will go to front-line army units.<br />
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A recent internal army study found that some young people interested in the military tended to lack life goals, felt alienated and accepted violence to achieve ends.<br />
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The study, "Canada's Soldiers: Military Ethos and Canadian Values in the 21st Century Army," found candidates who were spoiled, petulant and, while deferring to authority, tended to look after their own interests.<br />
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"We're not going to take anybody who doesn't meet the standard," Hillier said at a luncheon this week. "Clearly, if we have a greater number, you get to pick that man or woman who's obviously slightly better, etc.<br />
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"We are above (the standard) and we're going to remain above it."<br />
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He said the military has to boost its representation of women, minorities and aboriginals by focusing on specific communities and groups.<br />
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"I am looking at trying to change the demographic of the Canadian Forces so that we are seen as employer of choice for every ethnic group in every part of our great country," he said.<br />
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"Right now, we are not because many folks, perhaps, look at us and don't see themselves in us."<br />
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Making the military better reflect the country's makeup is "fundamental to success 10, 15, 20 years down the road," he added. <br />
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"We just need to aggressively pursue it here. It's a command-leadership issue that we need to get at." <br />
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Hillier said he's satisfied with current incentives to join the military, which include educational opportunities and signing bonuses of up to $225,000 for doctors. <br />
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But he said incentives and TV advertising alone just aren't cutting it. Marketing the Armed Forces requires a more complex approach. <br />
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Hillier says the military recently did not fully exploit an opportunity to sell itself at the Calgary Stampede, where organizers gave it prime space free to set up a booth worth up to $90,000 in rent. <br />
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He said their hosts expressed "an incredible desire to profile and highlight the Canadian Forces." <br />
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<a href="http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1845&ncid=1845&e=2&u=/cpress/20050715/ca_pr_on_na/military_recruiting">http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1845&ncid=1845&e=2&u=/cpress/20050715/ca_pr_on_na/military_recruiting</a><br />
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(C'mon all you boys and girls, Bush needs you...uh...Canada needs you to get all them bad guys in Afghanistan. It'll be fun, REALLY! Did I do all right Mr. Presi...oh uh.)<br />
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<p>---<br>These days, if you are not confused, you are not thinking clearly. Mrs. Irene Peters

Perhaps instead of sending our sons and daughters into harms way for commercial and political adventurism we should outsource this task to mercenaries or set up some company like the British did with the East India Company. This would save our military for defence of our nation- something that is worth dying for.

I wouldn't join the Canadian military even if you gave me a million dollars.

Bunch of murderers is what they are.

I hope you'r smart to not say that retarded comment to the brave people who fought in WW2 to stop Hitler. But you think that was a just war ether. Dumass!!