CAP Press Release - Quebec As A Nation? Canada As A Nation?

Posted on Thursday, November 23 at 18:06 by whelan costen
Duceppe has declared he likes the idea of adopting the U.S. dollar. He and Jack Layton had a similar skit back in August. (see article http://www.canadianactionparty.ca/temp/press_releases/Layton_and_Duceppe_on_Monetary_sovereignty.asp) Any nation knows if they don’t control their money, they are not sovereign. Just look at what has happened to Canada, when Mulroney turned over money creation to the private banks; see how the people became enslaved to corporate money profiteers! We owe them approximately $435 billion and the majority of it is interest. Once we (including Quebec) are fully absorbed under the North American corporate rule, we will be able to share in the U.S. debt as well. We can help pay for their wars, sacrifice our social programs and solidify our perpetual enslavement. Harper and Martin before him, have committed to the North American absorption of the entire nation through the Security and Prosperity agreement and other trade deals. So really who’s playing who? In the end they are both on the same page, destruction of Canada as a sovereign nation is the goal and we all know it. Secret meetings in Banff are not so secret anymore, perhaps these fellows ought to read the news. The rich Quebec culture, language and traditions will be sacrificed along with every other region in Canada. Interestingly our recent PMs have been able to speak both official languages but none seem to speak the language of the people of Canada, in any province! -30- Contact : Catherine Whelan Costen Canadian Action Party President PH: 403-660-0449 email: cathpublish@wildroseinternet.ca www.canadianactionparty.ca [Proofreader's note: this article was edited for spelling and typos on November 24, 2006]

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  1. Fri Nov 24, 2006 4:39 am
    Many canadians support this action as well as their representatives, so CAP shouldn't be so quick to play contrarian to everything that happens. All that does is keep dropping the small number who support the party. What is CAP's policy? To ignore any referendum in Quebec and bring in tanks to make sure they never can separate even if the majority want to? Of course all this benign gesture says is that Quebec is a nation, with no legislation to go with it. It's pretty much a semantic gesture and thats all.

  2. Fri Nov 24, 2006 5:17 am
    Does the guy really think this sort of stunt will gain him a few votes in Quebec?

    So, let's see, what do we have here? One guy from Alberta and another guy who has been out of the country an entire lifetime think that Quebec is a nation. Whatever...

  3. Fri Nov 24, 2006 6:19 am
    PMs have been able to speak both official languages but none seem to speak the language of the people of Canada, in any province<<

    They speak "money" which seems to be the new universal lauguage. The "secret" meetings in Banff indicate that Quebec nor Canada will remain a nation. Harper is making a prediction contrary to the concept. If the NAU is to take affect, only the USA will have sovereignty and Canada will fall under a new definition of "nation". Perhaps it's this definition of which Harper is delimitating. As a "nation", Quebec will still have to pay the same bills as Canada in support of the American NAU.

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  4. by avatar Spud
    Fri Nov 24, 2006 5:30 pm
    Aaaaannnnndddddd!The Mohawks?

  5. Fri Nov 24, 2006 6:57 pm
    I am in full support of Marcarc's response. For a party that claims the high ground of democracy and canadian sovereignty, the kneejerk reaction of the CAP party seems like shooting from the hip. Ditto for the "independant" Garth Turner's reaction (rf. his blog).

    Perhaps Canadians in fact do need to be consulted on this and have an intelligent discussion on this important matter. Has there really been such a discussion so far -vs-the ethnic hatred loaded language one???

    A majority of Canadians may very well decide after such a discussion that the proposed recognition should *not* be done. Such a recognition would be IMHO a step in the right direction -vs- stalling since 1982 and the many subsequent failures to solve the problem. The problem will not go away by ignoring it.

    My first gut reaction on this (and I would guess the majority of Canadians and Québécois) was he is just trying to buy the Quebec vote for next spring. My "thought overnight" reaction is that even he is has f...cked
    Canadian sovereingty so far (can he really be trusted?), he certainly has balls to ask for a public stoning in English Canada. I actually respect such a leadership move. Let's see how he reacts under the stoning and the erosion of a substantial portion of his vote now. And let's see who actually "walk the talk".

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    "We are all in this together somehow, some more than others somehow"

  6. Fri Nov 24, 2006 8:13 pm
    It's interesting that some would react to our press release as if it weren't true.
    Neither of these men are interested in saving Canada and Quebec will not
    survive the U.S. absorption, neither will their culture, language or traditions.
    Canadian culture in every region of this country will be lost. The NAU is upon us
    and these two, and the Liberals are doing their part in a charade.

    I am surprised as those who have realized we've been hoodwinked so many
    times, but fail to see this for what it is. Is it any different than telling us they
    were saying NO to BMD, while North Bay has been turned into the northern tip of
    the program. They speak and people react as if it were true, regardless of the
    overwhelming evidence to the contrary. Time to see through the charade.

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    "aaaah and the whisper of thousands of tiny voices became a mighty deafening roar and they called it 'freedom'!"' Canadians Acting Humanely at home & everywhere

  7. Fri Nov 24, 2006 8:24 pm
    Marcarc, how can you say that anyone supports this policy, when nothing has
    been declared, the First Nations don't know where they stand and nobody
    really knows what Harper meant? So what do they support?

    CAP is committed to a United Sovereign Canada which includes Quebec, we
    know that once Quebec breaks away, they will be the first to be absorbed and
    the rest of Canada will follow - the only way for Quebec to preserve their
    unique culture, traditions and language is within a sovereign Canada. That is
    what is on the line here the destruction of Canada. Once it happens, and all
    the victory parades are over, we will all see that what we got, wasn't what we
    were asking for at all.

    CAP's membership has been growing at a steady rate, primarily because we
    speak truth, even if it isn't popular. This charade and posturing in Parliament
    was a distraction from the truth, no one is speaking about the NAU, which is
    happening by stealth. CAP is talking about it.

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    "aaaah and the whisper of thousands of tiny voices became a mighty deafening roar and they called it 'freedom'!"' Canadians Acting Humanely at home & everywhere

  8. Fri Nov 24, 2006 8:28 pm
    "Is it any different than telling us they were saying NO to BMD, while North Bay has been turned into the northern tip of the program. "

    Catherine: Is this demagogy? You are starting to sound like a politician! You have been highly critical of the brainswhashing that our medias have inflicted on us. Chapeau. But could there be some leftover of that brainwashing in regards to the dealings with Quebec the "crybaby" as depicted by the medias?

    Canada should be very proud of the recovery made in Quebec over the last 40 years, mainly du to the sovereingty movement. Canada should be confident over its accomplishments and not on the defensive. Don't you think that Québécois not realise the huge progress and will simply walk away because they are becoming recognized as a "Nation". Meech failed 'cause politicians f&&&cked it up. Let's not do it again. If all Harper is trying to do is buy votes in Quebec, I can ensure you that it will badly backfire in his face. If he is prepared to show leadership, he is going to have to take a beating at this point. But is it not what leadership is about? Where is yours?

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    "We are all in this together somehow, some more than others somehow"

  9. Fri Nov 24, 2006 10:57 pm
    Here is a very simple plan that would make the separatistes and most Canadians happy;

    Offer the separatistes to call Quebec whatever they wish: Country, nation, super power, banana republic, armpit....you get the idea.

    PROVIDED THAT the separatistes reject any and all transfer payments or offer of transfer payments from any other province or territory, whether directly or via the Canadian govrnnment. Let them have the Seaway and the headache of sorting that out with the Americans.

    And, Quebec will pay its fair share of joint programs (defense, post office, etc.) until such time that Quebec no longer wishes this.

    How is THAT for a bargain???

    Naturally the politicians won't go for that.

    But, it is food for thought.

    H.F. Wolff

  10. Sat Nov 25, 2006 12:22 am
    It's interesting that some would react to our press release as if it weren't true. <<

    Neither of these men are interested in saving Canada and Quebec will not survive the U.S. absorption, neither will their culture, language or traditions<<

    You said and I said

    The "secret" meetings in Banff indicate that Quebec nor Canada will remain a nation.<<

    Neither of us have the power to stop it in it's tracks. If CAP is going to do something about and if Canadians are going to do something about it, it had better be now. The NAU has been in the making for a considerable time. Few Canadians ever thought about NAFTA during it's creation even though publisized. CAP nor I have the funding to make a very loud noise about it. What's the game plan? How do you not only make Canadians hear but also to pay heed? In my life time I have never seen Canadians awake or caring.

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    Expect little from life and get more from it.

  11. Sat Nov 25, 2006 1:38 am
    Glad you briught this up HFW, I have been hesitant to do so and now that it have perhaps Quebec would like to settle up for the balance of payments already doled out?



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    Diogenes said:
    "I am Diogenes the Dog. I nuzzle the kind, bark at the greedy and bite scoundrels."

  12. Sat Nov 25, 2006 9:24 pm
    Here is a multiple choice question. What is the real
    purpose of Mr. Harper's recent hollow words about
    Quebec being a nation?

    A) This move is designed to cause friction and division
    amongst the masses, not just the separatists. You can
    screw over a lot more people if the people you want to
    screw are at eachother's throats.

    B) This is nothing more than another distraction used
    by the Government to divert attention away from their
    real agenda to control the slaves and put them in line.

    C) This is a setup by Harper to stir the sh*t, so he can
    come back later with his corporate buddies and save
    the day. Everyone loves a hero.

    D) This is just laying the ground work for another costly
    referendum to grab some more taxpayers' cash. Wasn't
    the sponsorship scandal an offspring of the last
    referendum in '95?

    E) This is just to give the false impression the
    Government approves of cultural diversity.

    F) This is just to make us all conveniently forget this is
    one of the worst Governments Canada has ever had
    (don't take my word for it - the whole world is saying it.).

    G) All of the above.

    So while scores of people (including Canadian
    soldiers) are getting blown to bits all around the world
    and the environment is going to hell, we are sitting here
    discussing an issue that is of no consequence to
    anyone.

    Once again, the ignorant Canadian masses have fallen
    for the bait. No wonder the rest of the world is mocking
    us. We deserve it!



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