Calls For Another Beef Ban

Posted on Sunday, September 11 at 13:09 by jensonj
"We are dealing with a disease that has devastated the cattle industries in other countries and that has already cost the U.S. cattle industry billions of dollars in lost beef exports." Since trade in live cattle resumed on July 18, Canadian producers have shipped more than 89,000 animals under 30 months of age to the U.S. While there is no guarantee the appeals court will grant the rehearing, a favourable ruling for R-CALF would again cast a pall of uncertainty over the Canadian beef industry. It has already suffered $7 billion in losses since a cow with bovine spongiform encephalitis - BSE or mad cow disease - was found in an Alberta cow in May 2003. Stan Eby, president of the Canadian Cattlemen's Association, urged producers not to worry too much about R-CALF's latest move. "Our legal counsel have told us that rehearings are very rarely granted," Eby said Friday from his farm in Kincardine, Ont. "My sense is there will not be a rehearing and trade will continue. But we have to be watching all the time." Last March, district court Judge Richard Cebull in Montana ruled that the U.S. Department of Agriculture was wrong to allow trade in live Canadian cattle to resume. He said USDA import rules did not adequately protect American consumers and cattle herds from BSE. http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2005/09/09/pf-1209501.html

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  1. Sun Sep 11, 2005 9:03 pm
    Gotta love people who only care about making more money

  2. Thu Sep 15, 2005 1:20 am
    Right - Like the Canadian beef industry, eh?

    Why don't they smarten up and sell ALL their beef overseas? Why do they insist on sending it over the border where it's obviously not wanted, eh?

  3. Fri Sep 16, 2005 9:08 pm
    Because not all of us Americans hate Canada like you do.

    And if you don't want their beef , why are you so willing to take their oil?

  4. Sun Sep 18, 2005 7:02 pm
    > And if you don't want their beef , why are you so willing to take their oil?

    A bit of a non sequitor, in that beef and oil are not usually mixed, but here goes:

    Because we raise our own very high quality beef, and have been seriously damaged by allowing diseased Canadian beef into the country = y'know, Japan is STILL banning all American beef, because of Canadian BSE?

    Are you offering to reimburse the USA for that lost market?

    W/R/T Oil: Canada is nearby, and sells oil at reasonable market rates. Of course, the fact that Americans own a good portion of the pipelines and companies involved in getting the oil to market helps a little, too.

  5. Sun Oct 02, 2005 5:04 am
    Six state governments--Connecticut, West Virginia, New Mexico, North Dakota, South Dakota, and Montana--filed a court brief in support of the Ranchers- Cattlemen Action Legal Fund?s efforts to close the U.S. markets to live cattle from Canada, a Canadian Press report said. R-CALF, Billings, Montana, successfully delayed until this summer, the importation of Canadian cattle and beef. The group believes that the threat of bovine spongiform encephalopathy in Canadian cattle impedes the reopening of foreign markets to U.S. beef.<br />
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    R-CALF asked a panel of 11 judges, who sit on the U.S. 9th Circuit Court of Appeals, to review a ruling made July 14 that overturned a two-year ban on young Canadian cattle imports. The state governments involved in the action say they agree with R-CALF that USDA was wrong to allow trade in live Canadian cattle to resume and the threat of BSE could have devastating consequences to human health and the U.S. economy. <br />
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    <a href="http://www.wisconsinagconnection.com/story-national.cfm?Id=981&yr=2005">http://www.wisconsinagconnection.com/story-national.cfm?Id=981&yr=2005</a>

  6. Sun Oct 02, 2005 5:15 am
    You do realize that American and Canadian beef have been going back and forth over the border for decades. Canadian/American cattle are one of the same. Bred in either country without referance to citizenship. Which brings forth the question: Why is it that only American/Canadian cattle in Canada is known to have BSE when the standards in Canada are greater and closer watched?

  7. Sun Oct 02, 2005 5:27 am
    Canadians have yet to learn American technology. Shoot, Shovel & Shutup about it. Honesty does earn penalty points in any game where Americans are envolved.

  8. Thu Oct 06, 2005 3:52 am
    Yo, Buffon - Stop being a typical whinging canuck.

    Simply put: you're wrong on all posts here, on all accounts.

    BSE on the North American Continent so fare has been traced to CANADIAN cattle, only.

    No coverups on the USA side. Many admissions about ambiguous tests, and indeed, improper practices at slaughter houses, but no, absolutely NO, coverups.

    Tell you what: If Canada pays all penalties suffered by the USA for Canadian BSE as imposed by restrictions on USA beef with Japan, and we'll call it all quits, eh?

    Whaddya say?

  9. Thu Oct 06, 2005 4:48 pm
    Yo' Bubba, Care to check your facts?<br />
    <br />
    "BSE on the North American Continent so fare has been traced to CANADIAN cattle, only."<br />
    <br />
    <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2005/HEALTH/06/29/mad.cow/">http://www.cnn.com/2005/HEALTH/06/29/mad.cow/</a><br />
    <br />
    "The cow confirmed last week to be infected with mad cow disease was 12 years old and lived its entire life in Texas, according to John Clifford, the U.S. Department of Agriculture's chief veterinarian."<br />
    <br />
    "No coverups on the USA side. Many admissions about ambiguous tests, and indeed, improper practices at slaughter houses, but no, absolutely NO, coverups."<br />
    <br />
    <a href="http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20040511-015527-4917r">http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20040511-015527-4917r</a><p>---<br>"If you must kill a man, it costs you nothing to be polite about it." Winston Churchill<br />

  10. by avatar Jesse
    Thu Oct 06, 2005 10:58 pm
    OMG, we need to fingerprint all cows and store their retina scans so that we can protect the US from the evil Canadian Cows!

    Seriously, Canadian beef has been known to be higher quality (even in montana!) than American beef, partly due to better standards and controls in the industry. You seem to be a fan of capitalism; tell me how Canada producing a better quality product is damaging american markets? Because of NAFTA, US producers cannot claim economic reasons to protect their own markets. So, they have created the fuss about BSE in Canada as an alternative, meanwhile covering up all evidence of any cases of BSE in the US (which in turn influenced Japan's decision).

    It's much the same as softwood lumber; NAFTA is all well and good so long as the US is profiting, but as soon as they are beat at their own game, they fall back on legal contortions and biased media reports.


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  11. Fri Oct 07, 2005 3:22 am
    Yo, Canknucklehead!

    Where's the coverup? Those sites you cite are not exactly unknown, eh?

    The Texas cow was NOT, ever, part of the food-stream processing. Nothing like the 1-to-2 year old beef cattle found infected, FROM CANADA.

    Does Canada offer to pay damages suffered by BSE-findings, in lost trade by the USA to Japan?

    No. Of course not. Canadians live lives of blameless innocence, and have only Americans to blame for their less than perfect attempts of achieveing nirvanna.

    I fart in your general direction, and condemn you to a long winter of depression, darkness, and knowing your own lack of influence over those who control your lives. In other words: spend another long winter living in Canada.

  12. Fri Oct 07, 2005 3:34 am
    "Where's the coverup?"

    The cow from Texas was slaughtered in November, and was covered up. Only under constant lobbying was it retested, six months later, and found positive. The cow found in Washington state, made it into the food supply. The two found in Alberta never made it into the food supply. Who's food supply do you trust?

    BSE ocurrs naturally 1 in 4 million times in cattle over 8 years old. Should Canada pay damages for a naturally ocurring event? Ya want us to pay for damaged cars when an 'Alberta Clipper' dumps snow in the midwest? Wipe your nose for you while we're at it?

    We blame US businesses and trade groups for what they are, protectionist predators.

    Yea, your mother was a hampster and your father smelled of elderberries. I look foreward to the long winter. Beautiful snowy evenings, the northern lights (quite stunning). Clean landscapes and absolute *quiet*. It takes a real man to go out in the morning at -40 to start the car ;)


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    "If you must kill a man, it costs you nothing to be polite about it." Winston Churchill

  13. Sat Oct 08, 2005 6:20 pm
    This news is much more important:<br />
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    Schieffer hopeful of end to beef standoff!<br />
    <br />
    <a href="http://www.asahi.com/english/Herald-asahi/TKY200510070150.html">http://www.asahi.com/english/Herald-asahi/TKY200510070150.html</a><br />
    <br />

  14. Sat Oct 08, 2005 9:50 pm
    > It takes a real man to go out in the morning at -40 to start the car

    Of course, that raises the question: why anyone but a brainles idiot would want live there.



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