McKenna Defends Canada On O’Reilly Factor

Posted on Tuesday, September 13 at 12:11 by jensonj
McKenna was speechless for a moment or two. Indeed, such a question is groundless, if not insulting, but it serves to characterize how paranoid and inept Fox News commentators have become. Coming to the aid of your neighbour is measured by Fox News in political terms. Is the country offering aid right or left? What political implications does it have on a Republican government? Such a question was never posed by President Bush when seeking support for the Afghanistan and Iraq wars and for good reason, aid transcends politics placing crisis and humankind above petty political divisions. Gibson and other Fox commentators should study a little geography. All Western countries are “left” of the U.S. McKenna properly replied that Canada was simply helping its good neighbour. http://www.canadawebpages.com/pc-editorial.asp?Key=1741&editorType=news&editorPrimeKeyword=katrina&editorLink=

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  1. by hoopoe
    Tue Sep 13, 2005 7:28 pm
    Why does anybody bother with these people? They are not worth it and deserve to be ignored for the tabloid news they are. Is the National Inquirer also on McKenna's media circuit because that is the level Fox news and especially the O'Reilly Factor occupy.

  2. by gorian
    Tue Sep 13, 2005 9:36 pm
    I would agree except for the fact that O'Reilly's television show is the most popular news show in the United States right now. Somebody like McKenna HAS to bother with these people, because the Americans bother with them. In fact, it's because the Americans get bothered by the ranting lies of O'Reilly that we have to calmly correct them. Sort of like if an American tells you that "America won WWII", you can calmly correct them on this point. It will do no good to challenge them, because people like O'Reilly THRIVE off of frothing enemies. Smile at their silliness, and just make sure that the history books are too terribly infected.

    G

  3. Tue Sep 13, 2005 9:49 pm
    Well have you ever met a politician that did not like the camera, it makes them look important. Here in Nova Scotia NDP Peter Stoffer is better known as Captain Canada, he loves the high he get when he is blowing his own horn and pushing his own agenda in front of the camera.
    He was on CTV pointing out how we Canadians should open up our homes to the victims of Ketrina, well Peter Stoffer, maybe you and the NDP should open up your heartless soles to the injured workers who are destroyed by unionized WCB staff.
    But I can tell you that Peter is not the person one thinks he is, I have tried dealing with Stoffer and MP Mike Savage on WCB issues and this Agent Orange matter, they go and hide under a rock, it is something that is not their cup of tea., so they avoid the problem, hoping I will go away.
    Enclosing former Premier of New Brunswick Frank McKenna is no different, he must have felt right at home sitting their in the FOX's station.

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    Good government is not a party government

  4. Tue Sep 13, 2005 10:31 pm
    What I don't hear is Americans denouncing American Presidents, Senators, Congressmen, Ambassadors, Broadcasters, and Announcers etc. for trashing, attacking or justifying Americans retaliating against Canadians and Canadian Businesses as anti-Canadian and detrimental to American foreign relations.

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    Perception is two thirds of what we perceive reality to be.

    Difficult decisions are a privilege of rank.

  5. Tue Sep 13, 2005 10:57 pm
    >>Sort of like if an American tells you that "America won WWII", you can calmly correct them on this point.<<

    So who did win WW2? Germany/Japan? You have been listening to Ed too much.

  6. by gorian
    Tue Sep 13, 2005 11:05 pm
    "America" didn't win the Second World War. America, after 1941, contributed a great deal to the Allied victory. But, in fact, USSR clearly "won" the war if we have to determine a decisive nation. The Russians alone were responsible for over 50% of German casualties. The rest were divided up between Canada, Britain, France, Australia, etc, etc, and America. It is little more than an absurdity to say that "America won the war" and mean anything more than "America helped a large pool of people defeat a powerful enemy." In fact, the Russians killed more Germans than the number of Americans sent into the war.

    Canada had around 1,000,000 people serving our three military services during the war. Casualties and major injuries totalled over 100,000. Nobody here would say that "Canada won the war," but we can all take pride in the fact that 9 days after Hitler marched into Poland we were off, just like we can take pride in the fact that we (as a collective) joined and helped in a major way a larger collective that beat back a monster.

    G

  7. Wed Sep 14, 2005 2:38 am
    That would have been nice to see. As a New Brunswicker I'd agree with Wayne above, Frank is more american than most americans. I've never actually watched whatsisname, and I think I'd disagree that it's important to talk about him because people listen to him. I did see 'outfoxed' and saw quite enough of him, he was then on The Daily Show and I was horrified to see Jon Stewart play softball with him, heck, you'd have thought the guy was a democrat the way he was treated. It's far healthier for this website to avoid such stuff and concentrate on Canada and those americans who agree with 'our' point of view. More stories on american organizations working toward similar aims would be helpful since then we'd have something constructive to do. As can be seen, there's enough trouble staying on track here.

  8. Wed Sep 14, 2005 2:52 am
    <p>Being without TV, I’ve never seen Fox News, but I’ll be happy to oblige:</p> <p><b>I hereby denounce Presidents, Senators, Representatives, Ambassadors, broadcasters, announcers, &c. for trashing, attacking, or justifying Americans retaliating against Canadians and Canadian businesses as anti-Canadian and detrimental to American foreign relations.</b></p> <p>(Hmmm … wouldn’t you prefer that we <i>would</i> trash or attack Americans who retaliate against Canadians and Canadian businesses?)</p><p>---<br>Shatter your ideals upon the rock of Truth.<br />
    <br />
    — The Divine Symphony, by Inayat Khan<br />

  9. Wed Sep 14, 2005 2:52 am
    Talking to American Bush Supporters is like talking to a Nazi. They have no clue about reality. Follow the Leader.
    Dont critizize the government or the millitary. Giving up your firearms is ok as long as George Bush is the President.
    Asshole pscyhopathic nationalists. Worse than nationalists, since they seem to think Bush is above the law and beyond the constitution. They are so brainwashed, that they don't even realize that they are behaving like Nazi's. Its funny and sad at the same time.

  10. Wed Sep 14, 2005 3:11 am
    Then I guess talking to anti-Bush people is like talking to Stalinists?
    Amazing...

  11. Wed Sep 14, 2005 3:15 am
    Great post, a.b., they show blind obedience to the
    Fuhrer (authority).The cognitive cramp known as *faith*
    fuels it greatly.The Democrats, Ralph Nader and
    Libertarian Michael Badnarik were previous voting
    options, but apparently, anyone who criticizes
    the ultra-right dictatorial Bush administration is
    "un-American", as if Bush is the only option.

    When Hitler was asked a question that started with
    "Why...", he interupted and said "There is no 'why' !"

    Also, in Mein Kampf..."Faith must be unconditional".
    "There is no such thing as truth, either in the moral
    or scientific sense."

    "The needs of a state are the sole determening factor".

    To quote Goebbels, "Important is not what is right, but what WINS".

  12. Wed Sep 14, 2005 3:20 am
    No, anti-Bush means anti-authoritarian/anti-republican/<br />
    anti neo-fascism.<br />
    <br />
    The Democrats, Ralph Nader and Libertarians are<br />
    all Anti-Bush, but NONE of them are Stalinists.<br />
    Nader is a democratic socialist, who believes in<br />
    a capitalist-socialist fusion ratio of about<br />
    40:60.<br />
    <br />
    <a href="http://www.politicalcompass.org">http://www.politicalcompass.org</a><br />
    <br />
    Go to the bottom left of the site, click<br />
    on U.S. parties, and see how they measure<br />
    up in terms of social (top to bottom)<br />
    and economic (left to right) liberty.<br />
    <br />
    Bush is a totalitarian republican, so<br />
    anyone who is against him is actually PRO-AMERICAN.<br />
    IOW, PRO-U.S. constitution, inalienable<br />
    individual rights and life, liberty<br />
    and the pursuit of happiness.<br />
    <br />

  13. Wed Sep 14, 2005 4:53 am
    >> But, in fact, USSR clearly "won" the war if we have to determine a decisive nation.<<<

    #1) When it is all boiled down into the biggest of over-generalizations there are 2 things that basically won the Atlantic war; Russian/Ukrainian blood and American material/money. To say that the USSR clearly “won” WW2 is a step up in scale in over-generalizations that pushes the matter over from the fact to fiction category.

    #2) There was also a Pacific war. Care to tell me that someone else won that?

    #3) In the areas that the soviets advanced to, they stayed, plundered and walled off. In the areas that the Americans advanced to, we rebuilt through the Marshall plan and left as democracies that no longer pose a threat to world peace. That is what I call “winning”.

    >> but we can all take pride in the fact that 9 days after Hitler marched into Poland we were off<<

    If you had your current leadership you would still be agonizing over the decision.

  14. Wed Sep 14, 2005 5:07 am
    >>Great post, a.b., they show blind obedience to the
    Fuhrer (authority).<<

    That’s kind of ironic, "A.B.” has posted that the Jews were behind the holocaust in order to get the state of Israel. Now he is comparing people who disagree with him to Nazis.

    The amount of denial and rationalization you people use is truly pathological.

    >>"There is no such thing as truth, either in the moral
    or scientific sense."
    <<

    That sounds a heck of a lot like the moral equivalency arguments that so many here like to indulge in when it reinforces their prejudices.

    >>
    "The needs of a state are the sole determening factor".<<<

    LOL, just insert the word “nanny” in there before the word “state”…

    >>
    To quote Goebbels, "Important is not what is right, but what WINS".<<<

    Yup, I am still waiting for someone to show this American “deep Integration” plan… What does “right” or even “correct” have to do with the propaganda that is peddled here?



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