Harper Wins Tory Minority Government

I am not unhappy with these results. The Conservatives can hopefully clean up Ottawa and go easy on the right wing nuts excesses, since they will have to go back to the polls in a not so distant future. Let's give the chance to the runner for now.

I noticed BTW that in his French speach Harper referred to a sovereign Canada but did not do so in English. Odd... Or is it?

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"We are all in this together somehow, some more than others somehow"

I don't trust Harper, to me he is just the new leader of the same old ramsack party that has controlled the parliament game since the country was founded (or stolen, if you prefer). Lets start the next election campaign now.

There won't be another round of federal elections in the near future and Harper will just have to sail through what promises to be an exciting but turbulent mandate. <p> No 'right-minded' Liberal will wish to re-enter the fray of elections too soon. The party needs a new leader to begin with and with the likes of Ignatieff and McKenna vying for the leadership position, it will be an interesting political aside to watch. Though he made some gains, Layton once more finds himself at the loose end of Canadian politics. Since that's the spot the party is used to anyway, they should do good and be satisfied with it. As for Québec, I can't wait to see how Québécers will react when they realize that Harper is just another Jean Charest but without the curls. <p> Who said Canadian politics were boring ? Bravo for another minority government Canada ! <p>---<br>« Il y a une belle, une terrible rationalité dans la décision d'être libre. » - Gérard Bergeron <br />

Well two good things can and should happen if these guys are true to theur word.

Harper said he would like to see PR and Jack Layton said he would like to see PR .. so lets see how fast they bring that on.

The Harper said if you elect us , we will sue the Liberal Party of Canada and here is a little mention of part ot that promise which was brought up in the Parliament.

The Speaker: The hon. member for Saanich--Gulf Islands.
Mr. Gary Lunn (Saanich—Gulf Islands, CPC): Mr. Speaker, let us talk about the findings of Justice Gomery. This Minister of Public Works has very selective memory. The Kroll audit, part of the Gomery commission, identified $40 million were still missing and unaccounted for. Justice Gomery also stated that because of the cash they could not come up with the exact number. Nobody knows for sure. We do not know the number. The only way to get the real number is to sue the Liberal Party of Canada and let it defend the numbers in court.

If all holds true that parties are so great then these two thing should happen.

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Good government is not a party government

I am at least glad that it is a Minority government with 24 or so MPs from Ontario/Atlantic Canada - maybe these MPs, along with the Minority status, can keep the Alberta Neocon brigade in line, and begin to attract Tories and Red Tories back to a National Party - from which they can then moderate the overall membership. It's a nice dream anyway ...

I don't like the potential reliance on the Bloc at all.

One thing is for sure anyhow, and that is that Canadians do not TRUST any one party with a majority - Thanks be to God.

TT

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‘The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.’ (Edmund Burke)

The reality is that no matter which party got in, it is still going to be business as usual: the continuation of global capital imperialism and the assimilation of Canada into the "U.S. Borg Collective." Until the citizens of Canada are willing and able to have an open, honest discussion about the real issues instead of being distracted by the dangling keys of hidden-agenda politicians and a complicit media, there will be no hope of trying to minimize the impact of the train wreck that is coming for Fortress North America.

Chall Quote:" Until the citizens of Canada are willing and able to have an open, honest discussion about the real issues instead of being distracted by the dangling keys of hidden-agenda politicians and a complicit media, there will be no hope of trying to minimize the impact of the train wreck that is coming for Fortress North America."


Chall I agree with you 100% .

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Good government is not a party government

Chall: Couldn't have said it better myself. Business as usual indeed. I'm sure George W. Bush was skipping around the room last night. Dumbed down Canadians don't realize what they're in for with these Conservatives. Mind you I guess with a minority it won't be full speed ahead on the continued sell out of Canada. They'll have to mind their P's and Q's a bit.

If the Conservatives and the NDP are true to their word, then we should see legislation that will open the door to reforms.

Both have said they would like to see proportional representation and legislation that would make and hold “government “ more accountable .Lets see how much power Stephen Harper gives the Auditor General . Lets see if she will get the power required to look into these 9 trust funds that were set up under Paul Martins watch ! Lets hope that the Auditor Generals Office is provided with funding that will give Ms Fraser the room to hire an efficient and creditable staff to insure ever cent is monitored.

Stephen Harper has stated that if elected he will sue the Liberal Party to have them answer to the millions of our tax dollars that are still missing, or was that a bunch of bull? If this governing Conservative Party is going to be any different than the Liberals, he will follow through on those things , because they are a start to accountability.
I never voted in this election or the last one simply because I have no faith in our political system , but I will continue to speak out against this ill system and hope for something that treats all Canadians with respect..

Canadians are not asking for very much, we are told that the “government” are collecting taxes to maintain out public infrastructure and that is where we want them spent. We were never told that they were to be collected to bail out failed business . These business should have had enough insight to retool their industry and made them a better fit for the times and if the auto industry is in big trouble then let them find their way out, we are their consumers , not their bankers too.

If wages are out of control then I am sorry , unions such as the CAW are going to have to learn that for every dollar they increase some ones pay , there will be employees or member of that union who will be sacrificed in the name of that business servings . I am not one to kiss the corporate ass, but shareholder do invest in a business to earn a profit, maybe it would be wise for the auto industry after it restructures to consider their employees as partners or open the door to become shareholders.

But never the less, Canadian are going to have to retool their electoral process, because it is not balance in a way that it servers all Canadian , but yet we are all investor , but we are not receiving equal shares value for the amount of taxes we invest in the country. We are not respected as shareholders and as shareholder we have not seen and accountable accounting practices.

It our money and we deserve to know where every penny is goings, we deserve to know that “our government” is getting the best value for our investment when contracts are awarded and all tenders should be open for the Auditor Generals Department to review.



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Good government is not a party government

Please may be interested in this forum thread with actual stats for all parties:<br />
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<a href="http://www.vivelecanada.ca/forum/viewtopic.php?showtopic=14691">http://www.vivelecanada.ca/forum/viewtopic.php?showtopic=14691</a><p>---<br>"Beer Garden'? You mean, a real garden of beer? I thought they only had those in Canada!" --Largo

All the parties have lost and they all deserved to lose. It was a pathetically stupid campaign all around and the winners were the best PR hacks, working in the Harper camp .

What the commentators forget, or dismiss, is the simple fact that it isn't Harper who makes his policies, but the big business mind benders who ran his campaign.

The others didn't even come close to their effectiveness, stomping around in the mud. Whenever Harper was away from their influence, he put his foot into his own mouth, as on the question of abortions.

Harper's minority is probably more dangerous, than if he'd received a small majority.

The coming action plan is now obvious. Harper will act sweet as honey and beat his chest as the "Great Canadian". He'll introduce a few motherhood type legislations the others can not afford to oppose.

In between he'll also put forward some minor issues he can afford to lose without losing power. But that will be done with the planned purpose for the record to give him the excuse to claim that his minority position prevents him from him from acting on the country's behalf, crying his eyes out for public support to "make Canada great and independent".

Then, when his handlers feel that the polling numbers are moving in his favour, he'll introduce some major legislation the others can not support and it will be the Conservatives who'll force an election, begging for majority.

As a diehard "deep integrationist free trader" if he gets majority the next time around, the first thing he'll do is to put up signs all around the country "Canada for Sale".

As if Canada hadn't already been sold, with our economy controlled from abroad.

Now....will he follow Mulroney's footstepts to Washington to get his orders, within the next few days, or will his mindbenders advise against it, fearing public disapproval?

In any case, the next year or two will be the rule of PR campaigns by multinational PR hacks to ensure a Harper landslide the next time around.

Ed Deak, Big Lake.

Ed, this is why we must not go back to our simple lives now but must fight even harder against this new government and those people that control it and Harper. As so many people quoted before, they won only a battle, the war is not over... in fact it has just started.

Let's continue the actions to teach people the true message.

Well Ed that is the system you like and that is the system you supported and voted under and that is the system you must live with. Got any ideas to change it? You sound like a good NDPer are you pushing Layton for change?

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Good government is not a party government

As with Democracy being a myth, accountability is also a myth and Harper has used that only to gain votes. Except for maybe over spending some taxpayer monies, accountability is not possible because regardless of what a MP will do or say, there will always be people for and against him. It is impossible to think that MP can be sued and held accountable. It will never be possible because they won't be able to do anything and even that could be a reason to be sued and be held accountable. I repeat... there will ALWAYS be someone against and ready to sue. The only time a government could be held accountable is when 100% of voters would vote for the same guy or party.