No-Fly Coming To Canada

Posted on Tuesday, September 07 at 11:19 by kwantize
Globe & Mail: The Martin government is compiling its own "no-fly list" of supposed security threateners for carriers to enforce on domestic flights

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  1. Tue Sep 07, 2004 7:10 pm
    Canadian terrorists shouldn't be allowed to get that close to carrying out a terrorist act, they should be stopped long before they're about to board a passenger jet. Jail, or deportation if that's possible, the government has a duty to all Canadians not to allow terrorists to carry their plans that far.

  2. Tue Sep 07, 2004 7:32 pm
    We live in a democratic society where ones rights remain no matter how some may label them. So... where is the burdon of proof? Who makes the list and what qualifies someone?

  3. Tue Sep 07, 2004 7:51 pm
    "At first, they came for the radicals,<br> But I wasn't a radical, so I did nothing . . ."<p> <p>---<br>"If you must kill a man, it costs you nothing to be polite about it." Winston Churchill <br />

  4. Wed Sep 08, 2004 2:46 am
    You're implying that a suicide attacker who flies an airliner into a building is simply a 'radical'? So he or she shouldn't be stopped because they're just 'expressing themselves' or something? --- It stops being a radical opinion when a whole bunch of people end up dead. That's murder.

  5. by avatar Jesse
    Wed Sep 08, 2004 6:15 am
    So, why don't they just keep the supposed terrorists from buying plane tickets in the first place? It's not like they can't/don't ask for ID when you purchase it. That way, you aren't stuck at the airport wondering why you were denied boarding. It would also protect the airline employees.

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    Jesse

  6. by avatar Jesse
    Wed Sep 08, 2004 6:18 am
    No, he's implying that this is only the first step, using part of an old saying. A list that is compiled with neither process transparency nor public recourse leads to a police state, much like we're seeing happen in the US.


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    Jesse

  7. Wed Sep 08, 2004 6:25 am
    Yes Jesse, that is the question I have wondered, why wait until you are bording to say NO! Doesn't that also cause distress to the other people in line, the airline employee denying you access, the arguments that surely ensue when you know you shouldn't be on that list?

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    If I stand for my country today...will my country be here to stand for me tomorrow?

  8. Wed Sep 08, 2004 2:41 pm
    Some people just love fascism, eh?

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    Dave Ruston

  9. Wed Sep 08, 2004 3:01 pm
    Like J said, they actual quote goes:<p> First they came for the Communists, and I didn’t speak up,<br> because I wasn’t a Communist.<br> Then they came for the Jews, and I didn’t speak up,<br> because I wasn’t a Jew.<br> Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn’t speak up,<br> because I was a Protestant.<br> Then they came for me, and by that time there was no one<br> left to speak up for me.<br> <br> by Rev. Martin Niemoller(a Lutheran Minister in Germany during WW2), 1945<p> <p>---<br>"If you must kill a man, it costs you nothing to be polite about it." Winston Churchill <br />

  10. Wed Sep 08, 2004 3:04 pm
    <i>why wait until you are bording to say NO!</i><p> You can't detain someone if you don't know where they are.<p><p>---<br>"If you must kill a man, it costs you nothing to be polite about it." Winston Churchill <br />

  11. Wed Sep 08, 2004 5:54 pm
    And how many terrorists other than Senator Kennedy has the
    US caught this way?

  12. Wed Sep 08, 2004 6:34 pm
    Exactally! But that is still the reason they aren't denied buying tickets. They wait to get you to the security checkpoint before sending you to the loveley tropical destination of Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.<p> <p>---<br>"If you must kill a man, it costs you nothing to be polite about it." Winston Churchill <br />

  13. Mon Nov 29, 2004 2:46 am
    Democratic??Really and where is it at???

  14. Mon Nov 29, 2004 2:55 am
    It's called "let them in the gate, identify them, then slam the door shut."

    That is the only way we can have freedom and security at the same time.


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    "Arrogance is unacceptable. Do it to my face, and I will react" - Jim Callaghan



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