We're Cozying Up To The Yanks!

Posted on Friday, February 20 at 18:21 by notacolony.ca
Full story:
Cozying Up to the Yanks

Note: Cozying Up to the Yanks Cozying Up to the Yanks

Contributed By



Article Rating

 (0 votes) 

Options




Comments

  1. Mon Feb 23, 2004 6:24 am
    Because this is a family show I can\'t say what I\'m really feeling or thinking. It\'s not a surprise, yet it\'s so hopeless to think that things are racing downhill so fast we\'ll never stop what we don\'t want. Why has the Canadian business community and the Canadian government hitched us to the worst,(very worst), foreign policy makers on the planet?

    I emailed Paul Martin yesterday with some points I wanted to make including why his gov is rushing to negotiate the MDS before he\'s been given a mandate to do that kind of decision making. That is one decision that needs to go to referendum. I find all Canadian officials (provincial and federal) are dealing with this U.S. government under the covers, like 10 year old children, flashlights and maps, and fart jokes for a laugh on the side. Snikering at how they\'re pulling one over on us as we email and wail away thinking we\'re making a difference.

    I told Paul Martin that two ways he could turn the falling polls around would be 1. Replace David Pratt with someone like the discarded Martin Cauchon and 2. Tell Paul Cellucci to get out of Canada.

    After reading this article I can see I wasted my time.

  2. Mon Feb 23, 2004 6:32 am
    I was just going to say thanks for ruining a perfectly good Sunday...but 4Canada summed it up nicely...bah ha ha
    but hey we\'ll suck it up, and consider this just more fuel for our little fire...screaming doesn\'t seem to work, maybe whispering will get their attention???

  3. Mon Feb 23, 2004 5:31 pm
    A good list of how well we can learn to cooperate with our closest neighbour, the place where we sell 80% of our production. In the future our beef industry won\'t be shut out because they\'ll exist in a larger regulatory environment. Integrated energy policy means more transparent practices and less volatility in our small market. And we can still get a free ride in defence if we sign on to NMD, the go-it-alone option means we either spend about five times more than we do now on defence, or we become a total client state of the U.S. by not taking any responsibility for ourselves. North America will be defended wether Canadians like it or not, if we won\'t do anything in our own defence, then we lose our sovereignty, cooperation is cheap defence. No defence means no sovereignty.

  4. Mon Feb 23, 2004 6:25 pm
    Integrated energy policy also means that Canada will be unable to retain any oil, electricity etc for its own needs once we start running out (set to happen within decades or possibly less)--cheap and abundant energy for the US doesn\'t mean the same for Canada, thanks to Chapter 11 of NAFTA. Once we export at a certain level we must maintain that level of exports even as supplies dwindle, meaning even Albertans could be \"freezing in the dark\" as they watch their own oil etc ship south. Remember, you are talking about competing against the much bigger US market--our prices will inevitably go up.

    Integrated missile defence means Canada cannot continue to pursue safer and saner policies such as disarmament and treaties like the ABM treaty (which the US refused to sign), the most obvious way to \"defend\" ourselves against missile threats (ie ensure there are no missiles in the first place)--creating a defence shield could help spark a new arms race, as proven by a recent article posted to this site about Russia\'s announcement that it is testing of a new attack that would be missile-defence-proof (just use our search box to find it). How is it protecting our sovereignty to abandon our own policies and simply adhere to those of another country? Remember, the US still calls the program \"national missile defence\" which is telling. And who exactly are we protecting Canada against? A defence shield doesn\'t protect against terrorism, and is China or North Korea so eager to point its missiles at us? In fact, the tech of the defence shield remains completely unproven and easily fooled by using decoys etc, so will it even protect us against missiles? Probably not. All this info can be found by searching for \"missile defence\" on this site.

    Finally, the mad cow \"crisis\"--which of course is due more to consumer panic than real science. The markets are already very integrated and yet our border was still shut down. Will even MORE integrated markets end US protectionism on issues like this, or softwood lumber, or anything else? I\'m guessing no. Integration hasn\'t solved trade disuputes so far. Nor has doing what the US wants on issues such as the war in Afghanistan.

  5. Mon Feb 23, 2004 8:35 pm
    There will be no free ride with NMD.

    Pratt has already said, on Sunday during Question Period, that we will probably have missiles on Canadian soil.

    Who do you think is going to pay for them ??

    Can we afford it ??

    Hell NO !!

    Do we really need them ??

    We\'re not as paranoid as Bush, let him rant all he wants, we should not even consider the idea.

    Insanity Rules !!

    Just watch Dubya\'s face when he talks about Iraq and war, etc., his face tightens up just like any other bully. He\'s too tiny for that.

    He actually looks like he could take a swing at somebody !!

    I wish he would, then they could put him in a nice cosy room where he can\'t hurt anybody. Except himself !





    ---
    "Arrogance in Politics is unacceptable"
    Jim Callaghan
    Minden, Ontario
    705-286-1860
    www.misterc.ca

  6. Mon Feb 23, 2004 8:52 pm
    I like the way people get so emotional about George Bush, it\'s so similar to the way North Koreans get emotional about their Dear Leader, impractical and immature certainly, but amusing nevertheless.

  7. Mon Feb 23, 2004 10:40 pm
    NO,NO,NO, mr. anonymous above, we don`t want to further integrate with the uS. In fact, we want to de-integrate ourselves from them. Our resources are for Canadians, not for gluttonous US consumption until they`re all gone! We`d rather defend ourselves, instead of let a bully defend us, leaving us truly a US colony. You are mentally colonized, unfortunately!

    ---
    Dave Ruston

  8. Tue Feb 24, 2004 2:26 am
    Ya, I agree anonymous I\'ve seen the tapes of the N.Korean armies chanting and marching and how the propaganda machine works and it is exactly the same kind of training in the U.S. army. Y-e-s M-a-s-t-e-r. I guess that\'s how you get people to kill for you.

  9. Tue Feb 24, 2004 2:46 am
    Anonymous,

    I don\'t want a free ride for Canadian defense. As far as I\'m concerned the ride we\'re on is called kidnapping! I want out of the embedded position we\'ve been put in without any debate or questions asked. The kind of defense the U.S. uses creates enemies. We do not need to associate our values with theirs in terms of warring and defense. And because I consider the U.S. our biggest threat, I\'ll feel safest once we line up about 10 neuclear weapons along the border pointing South. It\'s unnfortunate the U.S. government only backs off when there\'s a REAL threat to them.

    And as far as trade of any kind goes, as long as we\'re signed on to the FTA no little cows will be going anywhere if the U. S. doesn\'t want them. No lumber, no grain. The only products you\'ll never see stopped at the border are oil, gas and electricity. Think about it!

  10. Tue Feb 24, 2004 5:55 am
    I sure as hell don\'t find George W. Bush amusing at all.

    He\'s dangerous !!

    If that\'s emotion, then I\'ll take it !



    ---
    "Arrogance in Politics is unacceptable"
    Jim Callaghan
    Minden, Ontario
    705-286-1860
    www.misterc.ca

  11. Tue Feb 24, 2004 8:07 am
    I tend to agree with you Whelan. I don\'t beleive nuclear weapons should be a big part og our armed forces, but they are a relatively affordable way of deterring a country that is as aggressive as the US. As long as we keep track of them, we aren\'t endangering the world, as we know we won\'t use them.

    I am disturbed to hear today that Martin and Pratt are going \"Pearson\" by considering allowing U.S. nuclear weapons on Canaidian soil.

    I have an idea how a \"Nationalist\" government could have nuclear weapons and AVOID having them on Canadian soil: MUCLEAR POWERED & ARMED SUBS!!!!!!

    -Hey, the States does it, let\'s join the party, and do it right here in Canada, and build the subs ourselves, not buy some rusted-out British crap.

    Buya!

  12. Tue Feb 24, 2004 8:54 am
    This is one thing that really is disturbing, why are they even involved in talks on this BMD program? They, the Liberals do not, I repeat do not, have a mandate to do anything. Pratt says we haven\'t said yes and we haven\'t said no; well, hello, we have said NO. We the government, the people, you on the other hand have not been elected, your government under direction at present is by a non elected leader....you have no mandate to enter these discussion and no mandate to commit us financially or otherwise!!!! What part of this don\'t they understand....We are the government and for the most part, we have not been asked what we think, as usual. We\'ve got to vote them out, out, out; since they clearly do not listen to their employer, fired!!!



view comments in forum


You need to be a member and be logged into the site, to comment on stories.




Your Voice

To post to the site, just sign up for a free membership/user account and then hit submit. Posts in English or French are welcome. You can email any other suggestions or comments on site content to the site editor. (Please note that Vive le Canada does not necessarily endorse the opinions or comments posted on the site.)

canadian bloggers | canadian news