Bush Acknowledges Secret CIA Prisons

“It has been necessary to move these individuals to an environment where they can be held in secret, questioned by experts and, when appropriate, prosecuted for terrorist acts.”

"an environment where they can be held in secret"

and without due process of law no doubt.


"questioned by experts"

is that a new euphemism for "tortured", Dubyuh?


"and when appropriate, prosecuted for terrorist acts."

A secret trial, in a secret location?

And this is appropriate..how?


I guess when you think you're above the law you can pretty much "justify" anything.



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"and the knowledge they fear is a weapon to be used against them"

"The Weapon" - Rush

Yeah I saw the little creep. I had to say "torture" back at the screen, when he said "expertly questioned". Sigh, I'm taking back to my TV screen now. More litmus tests for public opposition maybe, or police state conditioning? I didn't get the impression there was any pressing need for his confession. It's like teaching how to be a good Nazi in little increments so the sleeple won't be jolted awake. Go back a year before 911 and try explaining preemptive wars, necessary and benificial torture, making a mockery of the Geneva convention, and all that has passed.

I'm yelling at my TV-Bush too. So this has been out there on the net for months and months and wasn't this a conspiracy theory by the nut cases? If the conspiracies are slowly going MSM through Bush himself I wonder how long it will be before he comes clean on 9/11? He's starting to look like one of those antinomians. I had never heard this word until Margaret Atwood on "Faith and Reason" called Tony Blair an antinomian. She explained it in such a way that I understood it to mean that he believes he is so divinly guided that he is above the law. Everything he does is for good. Here we have Bush - another aninomian. (there is quite a lot of info on the net about Antinomianism by the way)

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"And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music." Friedrich Nietzsche

Please do not refer to Bush as being "Christian" in any way, shape, or form.

His actions reveal him to be NO follower of Jesus Christ.

I strongly suspect that Dubyuh's god's name is Mammon.

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"and the knowledge they fear is a weapon to be used against them"

"The Weapon" - Rush

Thanks 4-Canada at least I'm not alone in trashing TV Bush. I just can't fathom him there with that self satisfied little smirk talking about the benefits of torture like he's talking about the weather. You are right about yet another "conspiracy" theory turning out to be true. I am not willing to let the use of the term "conspiracy theory" go unchallenged when I hear it anymore. Those who would use it to discredit those who have done their homework, need to be called on it. Fear of the false nutjob stigma they paint people with works well at quieting people

In the sermon on the Mount, (Matthew 7:18-20) Jesus said: "A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them."

Now while it is certainly not up to us to judge, it appears that Deacon could be right.

The right to a fair trial is a basic human right. When this right is violated, people innocent of any crime face conviction, imprisonment and even execution. The justice system itself loses credibility. The Right to a fair trial is an essential right in all countries respecting the rule of law. If we believe in the Rule of Law, Human Rights, Freedom, Liberty, Justice and Democracy then we should be able to stand by it with the knowledge that it must be applied equally to all good and bad.

The United States has exempted itself from the rules in its war of terror and freedom that it believes should apply to other nations when it opposes the International Criminal Court thus in the end opposing the rule of law being applied to themselves. This is inappropriate behavior from any democratic country.

The US claim for special status undermines the very idea of the rule of law as a single, principled normative order to which all nations of the world are expected to be bound by as well it undermines the international effort to subject the use of force to the rule of law. For the United States to take this position is wrong since it, more than any other modern nation-state, has held it self out as committed to and constituted by the rule of law, which at present, is using this point of view as a defence to justify its present actions of the use of force around the world in what the U.S. calls the war on terror. If the United States of America is operating democratically, within internationally recognized legal standards and international law then the United States of America has nothing to fear from rule of law and justice for its actions will be up held, but, if the United States of America is inventing, re-inventing and redefining internationally recognized legal standards and laws for its own selfish purposes and protection then the time will come when the U.S. will have to atone for her actions.

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Perception is two thirds of what we perceive reality to be.

Difficult decisions are a privilege of rank.