Open Skies ?

Again, hell of an idea. Since Wesjet is the only Canadian, and one of the few North American, airlines to make money, perhaps they can buy a few of the less competetive routes from the Americans. Turn the tables for once!<p> <p>---<br>"History does not repeat itself, but it does rhyme" Mark Twain <br />"The greatest price of not participating in politics is being governed by your inferiors." Plato

But I\'m wondering what this could mean in terms of security. Further harmonization as well? Would US no-fly lists become Canadian no-fly lists? Armed air marshalls or equivalent on Canadian flights? etc etc. Especially if we\'re talking about doing US domestic flights--you know they\'ll demand our security \"match\" theirs.

Susan, that is exactly what scares me about this...everytime they want something more open, it\'s more closed to the people. Will we be required to have a passport to fly in Canada, will we all be fingerprinted etc? Will our names appear on the security risk list? Nothing is ever as it seems these days!

Yeah doc, but so much for privacy, and security. Great, now a West Jet or Air Canada flight could be a teorrorist target.

I\'d advocate for another government-owned Air Canada, but I beleive that railways are the way to go. Flying will be too expensive some day in the next few years..

This is not a good idea. The integration of air travel within the US and Canada is destined to disaster.

The US will from now on ask for more info than is required from Canadians, we might as well get our own passports for international travel.

The US isn\'t going to allow easy access to their country until we prove who we are, or spend time in jail.

This does not bode well for Canada-US travel by air.

Soon it will become a major problem just crossing the border by car, as we have seen a major disruption in the Windsor area, to the point that truckers are quitting their jobs, due to the several hours they lose at the border.

This will not get better anytime soon.

I suggest we stay in Canada, and spend our money in Canada, and wait until the US begins to get the message.

Right now, they are so paranoid that they will stop anyone that they see fit.

That\'s why I\'m not going to cross the border anytime soon.

I will put up with the weather, it\'s better than putting up with the B******T !!






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I think a lack of border officials has a lot to do with it, not simply legislation, which isn\'t even always followed. I know people on work-visas who aren\'t being finger-printed.

I think a lack of border officials has a lot to do with it, not simply legislation, which isn\'t even always followed. I know people on work-visas who aren\'t being finger-printed.

Airlines historically have always lost money over the long term. A few good years, then splat, regs change and the Fed money stops. Air Canada changes ownership not for its future profitability, but for its tax losses.

Watch what happens over the next few weeks, the major media outlets, the pusher media pubic relations spin-doctors, will say: Westjet is great airline, buy the stock, BUT look, oh Vive le Sheep, what of the chart? Smart money is getting OUT - go to your favorite charting website and see for yourself, the MACD is crossing into bearish territory, look out below.

IT\'s not a sustainable industry.....nobody needs to rush anywhere, anyway, for the msot part.

Exactly,

This is like the perfect ruse to make sure Canadians comply with all the security issues the U.S. is foisting on us. Are the Europeans suffering like this? Are we the only misfortunate people to be put under the thumb of Sam?

I\'m planning a trip for the summer when I take 3 weeks off work. I was supposed to plan to go to the U.S. But after thinking about it, why go to the U.S when I have yet to discover the rest of Canada. So I\'m either going all the way west B.C or east New Brunswick. Most likely going to take the bus since Greyhound has such a good deal of 214$ anywhere in Canada (two way ticket).

I\'ll probably be going alone hooking up with a tour guide. Its gonna be a great experience.

If I\'m going to travel anywhere other then Canada, it will be Europe. The U.S will be down the list of places to visit.

Re: this airl line integration. Totally disagree. Even though I will never fly

Kevin Gagnon

Well a bus is probably a great adventure, I agree that the trains should be brought back. Passenger trains, as well as more freight, and more Canadian owned trains. Think of the safety factor with less semis on the highways, less wear and tear and risk to human lives, no border problems and children might have the opportunity to see their country. You can\'t see much on a plane. I\'ve always loved the train, but never had an opportunity to ride one, we used to climb over them, sometimes if they were parked across our path to get to school; short cut of course. Ah yes the old risk taking days...quite a rush if they started and you were only half way across!!! Not recommended of course.

I\'m not liking the open skies idea. I\'m suspicious first because the US suggested it. They wouldn\'t want it unless it was to their advantage.

I have the same plan: explore Canada more before more travel to the US. I\'ve always wanted to take a train trip across Canada, go to Carnival in Quebec, or see the east coast. No worries about passports, currency exchange, etc. And I wouldn\'t want my dollars to go towards their wars. I think the \"age of flight\" is not looking so rosy any more. What we really need are high-speed trains. Much more safe and comfortable.

Did you all know that Calgary has the first wind energy train in the world? I seen this on CBC the other day. Really interesting.

I love taking the train, only reason why I chose the bus to go west or east [not sure yet] is cause it was much, much cheeper. 214$ two way anywhere in Canada is a steal of a deal.

Anyone here live in B.C? Or anyone here live in New Brunswick, Nova Scotia or P.E.I ???? If I got east I\'m going to one of these places, still undecided.

The last bus ride was to Las Vegas about 2 years ago. It was a interesting ride. And you know what, no word of a lie the service from Greyhound U.S.A sucked. The service we got from Las Vegas to Canada was not good at all.

The American workers were very rude to us. It wasn\'t until we got to the Detriot terminal that we got good service from the worker there. He was a African American nice fellow who had a canada flag on his employee shirt. I\'m guessing he was Canadian, working there. Either way he was the first sign of good service during the entire 3 day trip.

Kevin Gagnon