What Is Conservatism And What Is Wrong With It?

Posted on Monday, October 10 at 11:29 by Patm
The tactics of conservatism vary widely by place and time. But the most central feature of conservatism is deference: a psychologically internalized attitude on the part of the common people that the aristocracy are better people than they are. Modern-day liberals often theorize that conservatives use "social issues" as a way to mask economic objectives, but this is almost backward: the true goal of conservatism is to establish an aristocracy, which is a social and psychological condition of inequality. Economic inequality and regressive taxation, while certainly welcomed by the aristocracy, are best understood as a means to their actual goal, which is simply to be aristocrats. More generally, it is crucial to conservatism that the people must literally love the order that dominates them. Of course this notion sounds bizarre to modern ears, but it is perfectly overt in the writings of leading conservative theorists such as Burke. Democracy, for them, is not about the mechanisms of voting and office-holding. In fact conservatives hold a wide variety of opinions about such secondary formal matters. For conservatives, rather, democracy is a psychological condition. People who believe that the aristocracy rightfully dominates society because of its intrinsic superiority are conservatives; democrats, by contrast, believe that they are of equal social worth. Conservatism is the antithesis of democracy. This has been true for thousands of years. The defenders of aristocracy represent aristocracy as a natural phenomenon, but in reality it is the most artificial thing on earth. Although one of the goals of every aristocracy is to make its preferred social order seem permanent and timeless, in reality conservatism must be reinvented in every generation. This is true for many reasons, including internal conflicts among the aristocrats; institutional shifts due to climate, markets, or warfare; and ideological gains and losses in the perpetual struggle against democracy. In some societies the aristocracy is rigid, closed, and stratified, while in others it is more of an aspiration among various fluid and factionalized groups. The situation in the United States right now is toward the latter end of the spectrum. A main goal in life of all aristocrats, however, is to pass on their positions of privilege to their children, and many of the aspiring aristocrats of the United States are appointing their children to positions in government and in the archipelago of think tanks that promote conservative theories. Conservatism in every place and time is founded on deception. The deceptions of conservatism today are especially sophisticated, simply because culture today is sufficiently democratic that the myths of earlier times will no longer suffice. Entire article here, it is brilliant! http://polaris.gseis.ucla.edu/pagre/conservatism.html [Proofreader's note: this article was edited for spelling and typos on October 12, 2005]

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  1. by Patm
    Mon Oct 10, 2005 6:52 pm
    And for those not familiar with Burke (mentioned above), here is one of his more famous quotes:

    "The occupation of a hair-dresser, or of a tallowman, cannot be a matter of honor to any person - to say nothing of a number of other servile employments. Such description of men ought not to suffer oppression from the state, but the state suffers oppression if such as they, either individually or collectively, are permitted to rule."

    Edmund Burke (1729-1797)

  2. Mon Oct 10, 2005 7:47 pm
    Thanks Pat for this article. This has got to be the best article I've read in a long time. It's amazing how political strategy takes over people's minds. Like no one can think for themselves or something. Makes you wonder if rulers today still stand by Hitler's quote "What luck for the rulers that men do not think.".

    Kevin

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  3. Mon Oct 10, 2005 8:20 pm
    Mr. Agre either wrote this article from the Sanitorium or he is out and about, without taking his prescribed medication.

  4. Mon Oct 10, 2005 11:44 pm
    ANON,

    Discuss what was said in the article, please.

    When you respond in a personal attack type tone. It makes you seem offended. Doesn't tell us much more then that.

    Kevin

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    Acoustic Guitar: This machine will kill facist.- Woody Guthrie

  5. Tue Oct 11, 2005 12:02 am
    Why don't you learn how to spell?

  6. Tue Oct 11, 2005 12:15 am
    What offends ME, is word, upon word, upon word to answer a very simple question: How can Liberals win? Address the issue, without the hateful rhetoric and OFFER A SOLUTION THAT WILL WORK, not the usual 'let's throw money at the problem' solution!

  7. Tue Oct 11, 2005 2:07 am
    I take issue with conservatism as it is defined in this article, when we consult dictionary.com for 'conservatism' we get the following:

    con·ser·va·tism ( P ) Pronunciation Key (kn-sūrv-tzm)
    n.
    The inclination, especially in politics, to maintain the existing or traditional order.
    A political philosophy or attitude emphasizing respect for traditional institutions, distrust of government activism, and opposition to sudden change in the established order.
    Conservatism The principles and policies of the Conservative Party in the United Kingdom or of the Progressive Conservative Party in Canada.
    Caution or moderation, as in behavior or outlook.


    Using the accepted definition of conservatism, it might be a little bit harder to demonize it.

  8. Tue Oct 11, 2005 3:03 am
    There are no 'progressive' conservatives in Canada.


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  9. Tue Oct 11, 2005 3:04 am
    Then answer another question first. Define: "win". What goals are sought?


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    "If you must kill a man, it costs you nothing to be polite about it." Winston Churchill

  10. Tue Oct 11, 2005 3:51 am
    There is no equivalent between 'liberals' and 'conservatives' in the states and Canada. We have radically different political structures. But I agree with the above dictionary description, which makes the whole argument idiotic. If you think liberals, who have governed for the majority of the life of our country was somehow less inclined to aristocracy than conservatives, I think you are deluding yourself. In Canada conservatives have been far less 'aristocratic' than liberals have been. It depends how you define aristocracy, but personally I think that the given description of coservatism is just plain silly. Ask conservatives out west how inclined they are toward aristocracies and you'll get quite an answer. Of course we've come to the point where all such labels are practically meaningless anyway.

  11. Tue Oct 11, 2005 6:54 am
    Look at the first paragraph of the article Dr. C. To win political debates. Mr. A

  12. Tue Oct 11, 2005 4:34 pm
    Ahhh. I see. Don't care, but I see. Yes, I'n not so much interested in US politics as I am Canadian, as one affects me more directly.

    Let me just say that Republican *actions* will win or lose the next election. The pre-election debates will nonetheless be amusing.


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  13. Tue Oct 11, 2005 6:46 pm
    The current aristocracy in Canada is the Liberals.

    What the NDP needs to do is become more accountable and seen as better at managing. They need to demand results for money spend just as the Alberta Seperatist do.

  14. Tue Oct 11, 2005 7:54 pm
    WTF are the BC Liberals then?
    Total support of Oligarchical Power!!!
    Yeah they really supported the poor, sick and elderly of BC didn't they?
    "Liberals" are a joke. A TRUE Liberal, would be more along the proper definition of Conservatism as defined by a poster above. Liberal comes from Liberty. That means not being told what to think and what is ok to say, or not to say by the Government.

    Plus the fact the so-called Conservative party in Canada has repeatedly called from the Removal of the symbols or Monarchy and the abolishment of pointless positions like the Governor General. An Elected Senate is something they talk about alot as well, but I guess the "Liberals" do to.

    Get this fact straight. Both the "Liberals" and the "Conservatives" support the agenda of Global Oligarchy.
    They dont support us. The NDP is the same, but not as obvious about it.

    The OLD conseravtive party of Canada, was responsible for creating the Foreign Investment Review Board, which strictly monitored ALL foreign investment in Canada, and ensured that it was in the best interests of Canada, and ensured that Canadians or the Crown would at least 30% of the company operating on our soil.

    Mulroney cut its power along with passing NAFTA, and it basically no longer exists. We have not had a real "Conservative" Party in Canada for some time.
    A "Consevative" social policy regarding favoring christianity and being pro-life and all that bull, is just a scare tactic to get you afraid of Real Consevatism, which in days of old, actually did protect our interests.

    Get of of the bullshit framed debate. So-called "Liberals" and "leftists" are not our political saviors. Get a brain.
    Vote Green or CAP, or anything but the main 3 parties, and tell all your friends. All 3 are owned by and favorable to the Global Oligarchy system that is being set up world wide.



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