Chavez Offers Cheap Gas To Poor In U.S.

You gotta love this guy! Once in the limelight, less odds that Pat Robertsons words become reality. For years anything south of their border was what Americans considered their own football field.

"Chavez and Castro offered to give poor Americans free health care and train doctors free of charge"
this is way too beautiful!!
Third world countries offer the usa Foreign aid
Mau Mauing the flak catchers?


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"If you would be a real seeker after truth, it is necessary that at least once in your life you doubt, as far as possible, all things." " Aristotle was once ask

I rank Chavez up there with Ghandi. I'm hoping his Bolivarian Revolution will free Latin America from US imperialism much as Ghandi freed India from The British. I pray he can do it the same peaceful way, but Bush's administration isn't making it easy.<br />
If he can do it, there is hope for us all. Venezuela is (as far as I can see) the only true democracy remaining in either of the americas.<br />
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I don't know how he'll work out the logistics of cheap gas for poor Americans, but I'm sure his gesture is sincere. His heart is with the common man. He just recently implemented a program to fly Venezuelans to cuba for free eye surgery. 100,000 Venezuelans are expected to benefit from the program. Here's a URL of an article about it:<br />
<a href="http://www.periodico26.cu/english_new/cuba/surgery210805.htm">http://www.periodico26.cu/english_new/cuba/surgery210805.htm</a><br />
(sorry its just text that you'll have to copy & paste...If anybody can tell me how to post an html link from Firefox, I'll be most grateful.)<br />
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I think it's kind of comical (tragic really) that a man who's doing so much to help his people, improve his nation's economy, and to bring real democracy to Venezuela, is vilified in the US media as a "dangerous leftist dictator." If he's an example of what a dangerous leftist dictator does, then we need a helluva lot more of them.

You have to love Chavez's sense of humour in contrast to the lack of imagination of the Americans. Offering cheap gas to the "land of plenty" is sure to get the Americans riled.

Imagine the response if a political/religious leader in Venezuela called for the assassination of President Bush. The CIA would be on the person like a hawk, abducting him or her from South America, and bringing them back to stand trial under the Patriot Act. That offence would probably warrant life imprisonment since that person is a "threat to national security."

The American government is getting more and more sickening by the day. The hypocrisy is unbearable.

Offering charity to the poor in the US is not the Christian way. In fact, it's communism. Ask Robertson. The poor in America are lazy sods -- not like the poor in other parts of the world. Ask Robertson. They are only worthy of contempt, not charity. Ask Robertson.

At best, welfare abusers in the US (there really are no poor) should be LENT a pair of boots, so they can pick themselves up by their bootstraps. Then they have to give the boots back.............with interest. Ask Robertson.

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RickW

In your dreams. The sooner the U.S. annexes Canada the better!!!

The poor in Venezuela are even poorer now that this clown is in charge, and it's only going to get worse for them as Chavez charts more ruinous economic policies.

His low-brow appeal to the ignorant does seem to work - if they choose to support him and suffer because of that choice, at least they had the opportunity to make one of the last political choices they will ever be allowed to make since Chavez is modelling himself after the dictator Castro and his 45 years as supreme owner of people in Cuba.

"His low-brow appeal to the ignorant does seem to work..."<br />
Hmmmm.... sounds like the same motis operendi of a certain court <br />
appointed dictator I know...<br />
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GRGEOR ROACH, <a href="http://www.lowrentrat.com">www.lowrentrat.com</a>

>>The poor in Venezuela are even poorer now that this clown is in charge<<

That's a blatant falsehood. The economy is growing by leaps and bounds, and the poor are getting richer.

>>it's only going to get worse for them as Chavez charts more ruinous economic policies.
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Ruinous for whom? The oil companies? I think they can afford it. Chavez isn't doing anything more radical than Norway, which has a happy prosperous poulation as a result. It doesn't look like either country is going broke anytime soon, unlike the US & Canada, which now stand on the verge of a major depression as a result of trade imbalances and ridiculously high debt.

You aren't very bright are you? You should really look into the ACTUAL progress that Chavez has made helping the poor of his country. We could learn a lot from him, but some people would rather prop up the profits of the oil companies.

Romanticize communists all you want, but here's the bottom line...

When George Bush locks away suspected terrorists in Guantanamo Bay without trial, he is violating the values and principles on which his country was based.

When Fidel Castro locks away dissidents, he's *living up* to his values. To a communist, the individual is nothing, and the group is all. And since the leader speaks for the group, any individual who runs afoul of the leader is treated as an enemy of the group.

I despise Bush's policies and what he's done in Iraq. But put just about anyone up against a communist, and I'll side with the non-communist. The communist is almost always the greater of two evils.

When Michael Moore or Noam Chomsky end up in jail, I may reconsider. And if Chavez is getting that close to Castro, some of that totalitarianism is bound to rub off.

Any way you want to look at it Chavez is a democratically elected president, did not have to vote fix to be in that position, despite having to overcome a US sponsored coup attempt. The reason he is still in power is that he will not bow to the oil barons from the United States, he will not crawl into bed with Bush and he has in tenure built more schools and hospitals in the rural areas of Venezuela than any president before him.
He is sympathetic to Cuba as much on a humanitarian effort as political and his country is a driving force for the future economic situation of South America.
If I had to choose between a governoment run by Chavez or one run by Bush .... Chavez gets my vote...

In my "dreams", the US wouldn't have some 44 million functionally illiterate foks, and some 45 million without competent medical services, and some 90 million considered not just fat, but obese, and not be the world's leading consumer of "recreational drugs", and the world's leading producer of greenhouse gases.....etc.,etc, ad infinitum, ad nauseum.

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RickW

Ah, the old "better dead than red" routine. Allow me to educate you. This US administration is fascist. As Benito Mussolini claimed to have said (it was actually written by somebody else but Mussolini appropriated it): <blockquote> Fascism should more properly be called corporatism, since it is the merger of state and corporate power. </blockquote> But there are only two minor differences between fascism and communism. Do a google search for "The 14 defining characterists of fascism" and you will find Lawrence Britt's excellent analysis. He looked for common features of various fascist regimes (includinge Hitler's Germany, Mussolini's Italy, Franco's Spain, Suharto's Indonesia and several South American fascist regimes. He found 14 points they all had in common. This Bushista regime shares <b>all</b> of them. However, twelve of Britt's fourteen characteristics apply without modification to communist regimes. And the two that do not apply can be modified without overly distorting them to apply to communist regimes. Take point 8: <blockquote> Religion and Government are Intertwined - Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions. </blockquote> We all know about the "Godless Communists." But look at the we Mao was effectively deified. In essence he was treated as a God with Chinese devoutly reading the little red book in the same way that the talebangelicals read the bible. To dispute anything in the little red book was to face the fate that Pat Robertson wishes could be applied to those who dispute anything in the <strike>babble</strike> bible. In fact the adulation of Mao as a god-like figure is also applied to Bush by his brainwashed supporters. Take a look at Britt's point 9: <blockquote> Corporate Power is Protected - The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite. </blockquote> In Communism the government aristocracy puts the business leaders into power. It's still a coalition of government and business against everybody else, just a change of which is the dog and which is the tail. In fascism the corporate bosses are rich and use their money to control government; in communism the government are the fat cats and use their power to control the corporate bosses. It's still a hierarchy of the very rich, the rich, and the poor. But I omitted a few things there. The goal of both communism and fascism is to establish an oligarchy of the obscenely rich with the rest of us as expendable slaves. They're both just means to an end, which is why the followers of communist Leo Strauss decided they'd fare better as fascists, and so Wolfowitz, Perle, <i>et al</i> dropped their communist stance and became "neocons." Oh, and here's the really good bit. Rockefeller's Standard supplied gasoline to Hitler even after the US entered WW II. Bush's grandfather Prescott (bankrolled by the Rockefellers) acted as banker for Hitler's war machine and ran several crucial German companies even after the US entered WW II. The Rockefeller family bankrolled Karl Marx. The real monetary winners in both communism and fascism are not bosses of corporations or government officials but international bankers (the Rockefellers were bankrolled by, and follow the orders of, the Rothschilds - who are in effective control of the central banks of most countries including the so-called Federal Reserve, the Bank of England, the International Monetary Fund, and the Bank of International Clearances). You say tomayto, I say tomahto, you say communism, I say fascism. It's all about the Rothschilds, their second-level underlings like the Rockefellers and their third-level underlings like the Bushes. You've figured out that communism is bad, but you haven't figured out that Bushista fascism is just as bad.