Police Push For Surveillance Fee On Phones & Internet

If we start paying for this service, will it mean the end to warrants for phone tapping etc? New territory not sure how I feel about it...

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If I stand for my country today...will my country be here to stand for me tomorrow?

You should be very very scared. Police (RCMP, CSIS) already intercept large amounts of interent and voice line traffic (websites, email, random phone conversations) - they just want to offload the cost to the consumer.<p> IHMO - not f'n likely. As I ask about the gun registry and the airport security fee: How will this make me safer? It won't. So no, I will not pay it.<p> <p>---<br>"If you must kill a man, it costs you nothing to be polite about it." Winston Churchill <br />

So perhaps the issue here shouldn't be who pays, but why are they doing it, without warrants, suspicion, the usual reasons for wiretaps etc?

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If I stand for my country today...will my country be here to stand for me tomorrow?

From the article: <blockquote> Under the federal proposals, service providers would be required, when upgrading their systems, to build in the technical capabilities needed by police and intelligence agencies, such as the Canadian Security Intelligence Service, to easily tap communications. <br><br> Bell Canada says it has invested heavily in infrastructure to allow for wiretaps and is only trying to recover its costs on the day-to-day services provided to police and intelligence agencies. <br> "Bell has already spent millions of dollars on this initiative and it's going to continue costing us a huge amount of money going forward," Michelis said. "We are looking to get some sort of compensation on the ongoing costs." <br></blockquote><p> I don't care who pays, just not me. Bell made a business decision, now they can live with it.<p> <p>---<br>"If you must kill a man, it costs you nothing to be polite about it." Winston Churchill <br />

The airport security fee is used for good means. I am not saying this because it pays my wage, but I see how things have changed since Sept 11. Airport security in Canada is good and only getting better.

Next on tap is biometric passes and perimeter security line doors only accessible by either/both biometric pass(security pass embeded with fingerprint(s)) and retinal scans. Employee screening is tightening up as I am seeing unprecedented numbers of employees being denied passes to work at the airport.

As for having to pay for phone taps - use the proceeds of crime to pay such bills.

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If there was ever a time for Canadians to become pushy - now is the time - for time is running out on this nation called Canada.

How ironic that state sponsored surveillance of citizens envisioned in the novel "1984" that was supposed to be the end result of a communist state is coming to pass in the so-called free capitalist societies.

Corporate fascism. Pure and simple. And I still don`t understand why people are buying into this Orwellian thing? Are we really willing to give up our freedoms so easily?

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Dave Ruston

People have the choice to work at the airport or to not work at the airport. If that was a requirement for all jobs, then that would be a major problem.

It is one thing to have security clearance to work in certain sectors, but quite another to have the police using the phone/internet system to intercept citizen Joe/Jane, without just cause, warrant etc. To randomly listen to private calls, or even not so private internet is a breach of freedom, unless there is suspicion soundly based on evidence,and a proper warrant is used IMO, and not something we should take lightly.

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If I stand for my country today...will my country be here to stand for me tomorrow?

It's just the government(s) once again trying to find a way to watch us all as much as possible. There is a prevailing attitude that everybody is guilty of something. This is just trying to find the funds to prove it.

Surely, behind all, is a root cause of terriorism, something along the line of exploitation, injustice, disparity in the share of the earths resources...

Sure, we are out with the band-aids, but there should be serious soul-searching!