Explain something to me people. When the US government opresses their own people, or that of another country, the outrage here can be felt as though it were a physical object.
And your own government does it, and is trying to hide it from you, and the silence is deafning.
Does anyone else see this?
--- "If you must kill a man, it costs you nothing to be polite about it." Winston Churchill
"Canada's leading spy agency"? Do we have other, less competent spy agencies?
Seriously, this does make me angry. I don't want our government hiding behind excuses about "national security" while eroding basic rights.
--- Canadians are asking, why do americans hate us? They hate our freedoms: our freedom of religion, our freedom of speech, our freedom to disagree with each other.
Arar is a Syrian citizen first who has picked up Canadian citizenship as a convenience to him and possibly a convenience to whatever terrorist organization he works for. It's now his mission to change Canadian government policy to make it easier for other terrorists to roam around our country and he's doing a fine job of it.
The fact's are: A Syrian citizen was deported to his home country by a third country, not Canada. And now he's pissing all over us and liberals are lapping it up.
Riiiight. Arar is a terrorist because Fox News said he was. That's all the proof we need! Let's deport *everyone* who immigrated to Canada in the last 20 years, they are all obviously terrorists trying to open Canada up to more terrorists! In fact, why stop there! Let's deport everyone who has immigrated to canada in the past 200 years! I'm sure that all those nasty white europeans are all part of a sinister terrorist plot!
(apologies to Janis and the rest of the native americans, I know that there's more than a grain of truth in the above)
--- Canadians are asking, why do americans hate us? They hate our freedoms: our freedom of religion, our freedom of speech, our freedom to disagree with each other.
just one thing - Arar was innocent of any and all charges made against him. You know that little thing rightwingers hate more than anything - the rule of law...
I do but I dont. Canada is not perfect when it comes to being crystal clear on some issues, but in comparison - there is no comparison.
On this issue though, I would and do expect our own government to stall and drag its feet as much as possible to keep under wraps just what happened. the liberals have enough dirty laundry in the public sphere right now, more would not be helpful to their bid to get re-elected next year.
I know, I can't believe it either. I personally am outraged at any country oppressing their citizens but now ours has obviously found some advantage to doing that to us. By not giving us the information it is not just Maher Arar that is being oppressed. All you so called concerned Vive readers better start another writing campaign to your MP, Anne McLellan, Paul Martin and Irwin Cotler. It might not be a bad idea to contact some of the Senators involved in the new laws being made with regards to handing out our private information and issuing us with in-country passports disguised as *new* ID. I'll go try find contacts for such Senators.
--- "Yeah, well, [Mr. President] we used all five fingers because that's the way our mittens are made." Antonia Zerbisias
If Ottawa and CSIS truly want to protect "national security" they should release any and all information so that Canadians can see exactly what happened and why a Canadian citizen was deported to Syria by the United States. National Security starts with the security of each individual. Ottawa has to protect Canadian citizens from american racial profiling and discrimination.
I agree Wraun, Ottawa needs to protect every single citizen. The inquiry's findings should be made public, and if there were people who circumvented the rights of Mr. Arar they should be held accountable.
<br />
<br /> But Ottawa also needs to protect us from terrorists. Like the case of the Kadhr family. There should be an inquiry into how we let these people run around our country free, how Chretien petitioned the Pakistani government to set the father (Ahmed Said Khadr) free in 1996, how we provided a family of terrorists emergency passports to get their terrorist son Abdul Karim Khadr to Canada for medical treatment for injuries sustained in Pakistan in 2003. Our government needs to protect us from individuals such as this as well. Link below for background on this wonderous family.
<br />
<br /> <a href="http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/khadr/index.html">http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/khadr/index.html</a>
<br />
<br /> The government has failed Mr. Arar and the rest of us in ensuring that deportations of true security risks are properly identified. CSIS snapped to attention at the beck and call of the US on the Arar case, and they should be held accountable for their misdeeds or plain laziness. The politicians should also be held accountable for allowing the Kadhr's back in Canada (or if they let them back, the least they could do is arrest and detain them). The government and it's agencies are failing us at every turn, and they seem to handle every case in the exact wrong way.
<br />
Eh, doc, you know how it is. There`s just some things people would rather put their head in the sand over. I`ve said for many years now that our own government has morphed into a corporate fascist dictatorship, but whenever I said this, people looked at me like I was a member of the cast of a circus freak show. Yes, this Arar case sets a dangerous precedent. What else is this government capable of doing to people? And I don`t know about the rest of you, but i don`t see myself becoming rich soon, so, might as well fight for our rights, no?
What I want to know is where the hell is the opposition!?!?!?
I applaud Ed Broadbent and the NDP for backing-up Arar, but where the hell is Harper?
Has he made any peep on the matter? Most of what I hear from him concerns the "sponsorship scandal"! Whoopdie-doo! He spends the majority of his time whining about a measly $100 000 when Canadians are being sent abroad to be tortured!
To post to the site, just sign up for a free membership/user account and then hit submit. Posts in English or French are welcome. You can email any other suggestions or comments on site content to the site editor. (Please note that Vive le Canada does not necessarily endorse the opinions or comments posted on the site.)
Stumble It!
And your own government does it, and is trying to hide it from you, and the silence is deafning.
Does anyone else see this?
---
"If you must kill a man, it costs you nothing to be polite about it." Winston Churchill
Seriously, this does make me angry. I don't want our government hiding behind excuses about "national security" while eroding basic rights.
---
Canadians are asking, why do americans hate us? They hate our freedoms: our freedom of religion, our freedom of speech, our freedom to disagree with each other.
The fact's are: A Syrian citizen was deported to his home country by a third country, not Canada. And now he's pissing all over us and liberals are lapping it up.
(apologies to Janis and the rest of the native americans, I know that there's more than a grain of truth in the above)
---
Canadians are asking, why do americans hate us? They hate our freedoms: our freedom of religion, our freedom of speech, our freedom to disagree with each other.
On this issue though, I would and do expect our own government to stall and drag its feet as much as possible to keep under wraps just what happened. the liberals have enough dirty laundry in the public sphere right now, more would not be helpful to their bid to get re-elected next year.
I know, I can't believe it either. I personally am outraged at any country oppressing their citizens but now ours has obviously found some advantage to doing that to us. By not giving us the information it is not just Maher Arar that is being oppressed. All you so called concerned Vive readers better start another writing campaign to your MP, Anne McLellan, Paul Martin and Irwin Cotler. It might not be a bad idea to contact some of the Senators involved in the new laws being made with regards to handing out our private information and issuing us with in-country passports disguised as *new* ID. I'll go try find contacts for such Senators.
---
"Yeah, well, [Mr. President] we used all five fingers because that's the way our mittens are made." Antonia Zerbisias
---
"Yeah, well, [Mr. President] we used all five fingers because that's the way our mittens are made." Antonia Zerbisias
---
Canada for Canadians
<br />
But Ottawa also needs to protect us from terrorists. Like the case of the Kadhr family. There should be an inquiry into how we let these people run around our country free, how Chretien petitioned the Pakistani government to set the father (Ahmed Said Khadr) free in 1996, how we provided a family of terrorists emergency passports to get their terrorist son Abdul Karim Khadr to Canada for medical treatment for injuries sustained in Pakistan in 2003. Our government needs to protect us from individuals such as this as well. Link below for background on this wonderous family. <br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/khadr/index.html">http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/khadr/index.html</a> <br />
<br />
The government has failed Mr. Arar and the rest of us in ensuring that deportations of true security risks are properly identified. CSIS snapped to attention at the beck and call of the US on the Arar case, and they should be held accountable for their misdeeds or plain laziness. The politicians should also be held accountable for allowing the Kadhr's back in Canada (or if they let them back, the least they could do is arrest and detain them). The government and it's agencies are failing us at every turn, and they seem to handle every case in the exact wrong way. <br />
---
Dave Ruston
I applaud Ed Broadbent and the NDP for backing-up Arar, but where the hell is Harper?
Has he made any peep on the matter? Most of what I hear from him concerns the "sponsorship scandal"! Whoopdie-doo! He spends the majority of his time whining about a measly $100 000 when Canadians are being sent abroad to be tortured!
What a disgrace.