Health Council Goes Ahead Without Klein

<i>The average Canadian doesn't know, nor does he or she care, about a health council.</i><p> And why should they care about one more level of advisory committes or focus groups? Just fund health care better. Kleins big concern is that the head of the council will be a PM appointee (see privacy commissioner, ethics commissioner...) and not mutually agreed upon by the provinces. But no one reports the truth, they'd just rather bash King Ralph because it's better for ratings and ad imprints on a web page.<p> The plan was rammed down the provinces throat - Rememeber Cretins "Take it or leave it, you have 2 minutes to sign it" rant? It left the territories in worse shape than before an agreement.<p> <p>---<br>"History does not repeat itself, but it does rhyme" Mark Twain

If King Ralph and his queen, Mike Harris like the American system so much, why don\'t they move down there and leave us alone.

The ONLY reason the council wants some power is to make sure that the provinces spend the money on HEALTH CARE. Mike Harris and Ernie Eves used it for tax cuts, so I think if the money is used on health care, as it is meant to be, then the provinces have every right to use it as they see fit. ON HEALTH CARE !!


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Jim Callaghan
Minden, Ontario
705-286-1860
www.misterc.ca

There used to be a thing related to transfer payments that said that certain amounts of it had to be spent on certain things like health, education, etc. Now the provinces can spend it any way they want. It changed with Martin\'s armageddon budget of 1995.

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"So many right-wing christians, so few lions." - t-shirt I saw @ school

I get a kick out of National Posts' Don Martin too: From the <a href='http://www.nationalpost.com/commentary/story.html?id=A8EA6693-9911-4DAB-9F66-2FFD8F6342A2'>Article </a> <i>"All this much ado about a council of appointed officials to monitor the "accountability and transparency provisions" in the accord. Might I suggest ... that the best safeguard on health care is a provincial election.<p> If a government isn't devoting adequate resources to health care -- the number one priority in public minds -- the bums would be thrown out at the ballot box."</i><p> <p>---<br>"History does not repeat itself, but it does rhyme" Mark Twain

Klein is an idiot! All this is, is just more regionalism, catering to US interests. Klein won`t come out and say it, but he loves the US system of dog eat dog. The rich pay for the best, and it`s Dr.Nick for the rest! The feds should wrestle more control from the provinces on health care.

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Dave Ruston

<i>Klein is an idiot! </i><p> If he is, then he'll get voted out. That's what elections are for. But each time he comes back with a stronger majority.<p> <i>All this is, is just more regionalism, catering to US interests. </i><p> Huh? Health care is the responsibilty of the provinces. Says so in the Constitution, so <b>by law</b>, it is a regional issue. Where did the US come into this? Do I need my tinfoil hat again?<p> <i>The feds should wrestle more control from the provinces on health care.</i><p> So, what we need is another level of plutocracy that takes more millions away from healthcare, that is unresponsive to Canadians, and does absolutely nothing. Because the Feds say is good for us, it must be, and they are soooo efficient at doing things now. Uhhh huhhhh.<p> <p>---<br>"History does not repeat itself, but it does rhyme" Mark Twain

Health care is also a federal issue and given that the provinces are working to destroy it, the federal government has to expropriate control away from the provinces here. This is what Canadians said that they wanted in the Romanow report. As for Klein, well, let`s face it, Alberta is blessed with EVERYTHING! You can`t go wrong governing Alberta. Peewee Herman could look good as premier of Alberta!

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Dave Ruston

I agree with Dave on this one, you know when provinces are decided on selling out this country they don\'t care about the little people and the Feds should have the mandate to ensure that all Canadians have the healthcare they need. I was just reading about a small town that used to have kidney dialysis available but now the province has taken it away saying that their must be 5 people needing this service in order for it to be available. So the people who do need it have to travel to a larger center, which is not always possible, some can\'t drive or are also impaired in other ways. They have to wait for spaces in the city and the writer pointed out that these machines are provided by the Kidney Foundation so why would the province take it away? No I don\'t want Klein or any provincial government having the last say on what will be available to me or my family, they have shown that it isn\'t about health it is about money, theirs as they see it not ours!

The statement that if Klein is an idiot he\'ll be booted out, is true if we lived in a democracy. If you consider all the cuts he has made, all of the people, seniors, teachers, hospital workers, patients, students and on and on, that have been hurt by his decisions, you have to wonder, who voted for him? Could elections be rigged in Canada, no say it ain\'t possible?

<i>you know when provinces are decided on selling out this country they don't care about the little people and the Feds should have the mandate to ensure that all Canadians have the healthcare they need.</i><p> So when the provinces and the feds used to share the cost of health care 50/50, but now, at least in Alberta, the feds have cut back their share to 20%, you blame the province? The Feds have the mandate to ensure the provinces spend the allotted amount on health care, and they do check. But a 30% drop in funding on the part of the Feds is not the provinces fault, in my eyes.<p> <i>Could elections be rigged in Canada, no say it ain't possible?</i><p> No. I've worked as a scruitineer in local, provincial and federal elections. Elections can't be rigged, so long as a paper trail is part of the process. Beware of electronic voting machines that do not leave a paper trail, like the ones currently being used in the US and manufactured by Diebold.<p> There is one way to rig an election, and that is by casting votes in the name of persons who do not vote. This has happened in the distant past to my mother. She went to vote, and found that she had already voted. So someone cast a ballot in her name. There is no way to prove who did this. I urge you all, if you do not know who to vote for, do not get apathetic and not vote. Go down to the polling station and 'spoil' your ballot. Write in a vote for Santa Clause, or your childhood invisible friend or a big X right across the page, but get off your fat hairy a$$ and VOTE!<p> <p>---<br>"History does not repeat itself, but it does rhyme" Mark Twain

I blame both the feds and the provinces for the health care mess, but one of the reasons for cutting transfer payments was because, the provinces were not spending the money where it was supposed to be spent! And I too, wonder if elections aren`t fixed! In fact, that last Quebec referendum was fixed! Most Quebeckers I talk to claim that the majority of Quebeckers DO NOT want to separate! Same with the 1988 federal election. The majority of Canadians were against \'free trade\', yet Muldoon still got in. And I still don`t know how Harris got in for a second term in Ontario. The damage he did in his first term, you would think, would have been enough to deter people away from him! Hey, Bush`s election was indeed fixed! Yeah, I don`t trust the powers that be, do you?

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Dave Ruston

Really, was the Quebec election fixed by the Americans, to divide and conquer Canada?

Well, I tend to think that some crisis had to be invented to put a dent in Trudeau`s just society pledge.

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Dave Ruston