Evidence Based Or Ideology Based? Policy Choices

Posted on Friday, February 17 at 08:31 by bruce
The 1995 legislation also moved about half of all handguns into a “prohibited” category based on technical details such as calibre or barrel length. Although there was no evidence of any kind that guns with these technical details were in any way more prevalent in criminal gun use it was felt that they “might be” and therefore must be banned. Somewhat irrationally, these “too dangerous”, now prohibited guns were then left with their owners who could buy and sell them freely with other “prohibited” gun owners. It became a criminal offence for anyone else to possess one. (This s one of the biggest “registration to confiscation” events that has ever happened in North America, about half a million guns were confiscated, even though there current owners can keep them. The guns are to be confiscated when the current owner dies.) Calculating Cost/Benefits The number of guns to be registered is an important variable since the more guns there are, the more cost and effort is involved in the registration process. In Canada the number of guns in the country is the subject of some debate. In 1974, a Statistics Canada survey established the number at 11,186,000. Historical import/ export estimates would place the current number at anywhere from 18 to 21 million. In 1991, the Justice Department estimated the total number to be 6 million. For the purpose of this analysis, I have chosen 7 million as the number of guns to be registered. This estimate is on the low side and may underestimate the registration effort required, as such it slants the analysis in favour of gun registration. One measure of cost/benefit is the ratio of total effort to effective effort, in this case the ratio of all guns registered (total effort) to registered - and therefore traceable – crime guns (the “effective” against crime bit) We can calculate this ratio in a number of ways. Homicides In 2003 there were 548 homicides in Canada, 161 resulted from shooting. Assuming that each shooting involved a separate gun these figures yield the following cost-benefit ratio. Assuming there are only 7 million guns we get the following calculation. 161crime guns/7,000,000 not-crime guns = 0.000023 or .0023%, a cost-benefit ratio of 23 ten thousandths of 1% Therefore, in terms of the effort expended, 99.9977% of our effort was wasted registering non-crime guns and only .0023% of our effort landed on guns used in homicide (our crime prevention pay-off). Crimes of Violence We can expand this analysis to include the more common “crimes of violence.” There were 302,000 “crimes of violence” in Canada in 2003. Statistics Canada indicates that 5% of these crimes “involved” a firearm.* Assuming that each incidence involved a different firearm, this works out to (302,000 X .05) 15,100 firearms “involved” in a “crime of violence” (includes homicides). This yields the following cost-benefit ratio. Low estimate 7million guns 15,100/7,000,000 = 0.0022 or .22%, a cost-benefit ratio of 22 hundredths of 1% Accordingly, 99.78% of our effort was wasted on non-crime guns and only .22% of our effort affected guns used in crime. This analysis highlights the basic cost/benefit problem of gun registration as crime control. Even if we make the clearly incorrect assumption that each crime involves a different gun the best “return on investment” we can hope for is that less than ¼ of 1% of our efforts will involve crime guns. Arguably, this is a inefficient way to spend scarce law enforcement resources. The Registration Problem The above analysis contains other assumptions besides the one gun per crime assumption. It assumes that all crime guns are registered. It should be noted that this is a crucial assumption at the very centre of the debate. The whole gun registration equals crime control argument rests heavily on the assumption that gun registration will apply to the guns of criminals as well as the guns of law-abiding citizens. The percentage of crime guns that are registered is subject to considerable variation. Only 31% of guns used in homicides are recovered and of these only 28% were registered. Citing another example, we can note that the Department of Justice reported that 70% of guns “recovered” from criminals in Metropolitan Toronto were registered. This gives us a wide variation in crime gun registration rates, from 28% (recovered homicide guns that were registered) to 70% (guns seized from criminals). We can identify the best-possible return for our efforts if we pick the higher registration rate (a gun registry has zero connection to guns that are not registered). If we apply this best-case solution and use a crime gun registration rate of 70% we find that our most favourable “return on investment” becomes (.0022 X .7 = 0.00154) .154% or about 15 hundredths of 1%. Therefore 99.846% of our effort will be wasted on non-crime guns. A best case “return on investment” ratio of 15 hundredths of 1% indicates that gun registration is a rather inefficient crime control measure. The Connecting the Guns Problem The above analysis is based on another assumption. It assumes that, in every case, we will be able to “link” each registered crime gun to the criminal involved. This is a critical assumption. The entire registration equals crime control argument rests heavily on the assumption that the police can use the registry to trace registered crime guns back to criminals. (A registry cannot be used to trace unregistered guns, nor can it be used to trace guns that have not been recovered for identification.) This raises real problems. Not all crime guns are recovered for identification. Accordingly, we must conclude that the 15 hundredths of 1% best case “return on investment” is too optimistic and must be reduced even further to factor in unrecovered crime guns. However, there are still the registered guns that are recovered so we can argue that there is still some return on investment. Unfortunately, taking the next step, moving from gun recognition to evidence against a criminal is not always easy. In order to use a registry to “link” a crime gun to a particular criminal all of the following things must be true: the gun must be left behind at the scene of the crime, or otherwise recovered; the gun must be linked to the crime by being found at the scene or by ballistic evidence; the criminal must have registered the gun, using his true name and identity; the gun was not stolen, which would break the link between gun and owner leaving the criminal unidentified; and the criminal who was the registered crime gun’s owner did not claim that the gun had been stolen or lost prior to the crime. Obviously, not all of these conditions are true in every gun crime. Our best case “return on investment” already below 15 hundredths of 1% must be reduced again. Conclusion The above is a statistical analysis of the cost/benefits of gun registration as a crime control tool. Since it is good analytical practice to cross check statistical analysis against other known empirical data we should confirm our findings with an empirical test. Fortunately, here in Canada we have a readily available existing gun registry that can be used as a cross check. In Canada, handguns have been strictly registered since 1934, sixty-one years later in 1995 the Department of Justice admitted that they could not identify a single instance where the handgun registry had ever “helped” solve a crime. Accordingly, our analysis would indicate that gun registration is not a cost/effective way of reducing crime or spending our limited crime control budget. *(The Statistics Canada number (5%) is misleading: guns “involved” in crime are guns picked up by the police from a crime scene - say ones that were found in a closet. Guns are actually used in violent crime about 1.9% of the time. The higher number is used because it was the one used in Parliament to justify the long gun registry.) [Proofreader's note: this article was edited for spelling and typos on February 19, 2006]

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  1. Fri Feb 17, 2006 5:37 pm
    Lots of numbers there. Assuming the numbers are correct, or at least reasonably close to accurate, this seems to boil down to what many Canadians have been saying all along - the gun registry is a collossal waste.
    I suspect the greatest impact on crime this registry has had is that it has created crime due to making thousands of people criminals overnight because they were in possesion of unregistered guns - mostly long guns. It seems logical to assume that people who have guns that they use for criminal purposes are not going to register them, nor will they apply for a possesion and/or aquisition permit.
    This article points out that the issue is often emotional and that is true. Many arguments on both sides of the issue are based on feelings and beliefs towards guns rather than a factual analysis of the effectivness of such a registry system. The cost/benefit analysis is an interesting approach because it tends to quantify what is normally postulated in an anectdotal way or from a "logical" argument approach. But the results should come as no surprise to anyone. Most people agree that some form of registration and certainly a screening process for aquisition permits is a good idea, but it is difficult to support our current system no matter how opposed to guns you might be. A good example of the foolishness of this system can be found by asking the firearms registrar how many firearms were imported into Canada by non-residents since the inception of the new system and how many of those firearms were then exported. You will discover that the numbers for import are available, but there is no mechanism for export controll in place and so the numbers for exports don't exist. It is actually much easier for a non-resident to import a gun into Canada than it is for a resident to purchase one (if you factor in the process involved in getting the proper permits, registration of the gun, etc.). So not only has the registry itself been useless and wastefull, but it has made it no more difficult for criminals to aquire guns. In fact I believe it made it easier since many people were wanting to get rid of guns that they previously didn't care about because they didn't want to become a criminal by virtue of grandpa's old rifle in the basement.
    The real crime here is that this is not unknown to government, but it comes down to an inability of politicians to admitt they were wrong so instead they continue to throw money at a useless programme and find ways to defend it.

  2. Fri Feb 17, 2006 7:55 pm
    Although I've learned to shoot at 6, was a district cadet champion at 15 and a battalion staff marksman, detailed to a heavy machinegun squad to protect the guns and the crew, I don't like guns, haven't fired one for over 30 years after the war and my present .303s for about 23-24 years.

    As a rancher I'm entitled to keep a gun at hand against predators, so I have a .22 I use sometimes, mostly to make noise with and scare away the coyotes, or ravens when they come too close to our calves, or chickens. I don't hunt, and apart from a few trial shots every year of two, for sighting in my .22, I never fire a gun.

    However, as we live 55 km from the nearest copshop, if any human predators would ask for it, they could end up with a few holes in their skins. Without the slightest problem and no jury would convict me.

    My guns are registered, but I have to admit that this gun registration, which is the result of the hysteria after some imbecile killed a number of girl students in Montreal, because he hated women. It accomplished nothing, benefited bobody except a few bureacrats, but it diverted much needed funds from real crime investigations and other issues.

    Any advocates of gun registration should look at the home invasion statistics. They always happen in cities, mostly to old people. Never out here in the boondocks, where the crooks know that people have guns and know how to use them.

    I'm enclosing a small item I received from Australia on gun control.

    Ed Deak, Big Lake, BC.
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    Subject: A Police Officer in Austrailia

    From: Ed Chenel, A police officer in Australia

    Hi Canadians, I thought you all would like to see the real figures from
    Down Under. It has now been 12 months since gun owners in Australia were
    forced by a new law to surrender 640,381 personal firearms to be destroyed by
    our own government, a program costing Australia taxpayers more than $500
    million dollars.

    The first year results are now in:
    Australia-wide, homicides are up 6.2 percent,
    Australia-wide, assaults are up 9.6 percent ;
    Australia-wide, armed robberies are up 44 percent (yes, 44 percent)!
    In the state of Victoria alone, homicides with firearms are now up 300 percent.
    (Note that while the law-abiding citizens turned them in, the criminals did not
    and criminals still possess their guns!)

    While figures over the previous 25 years showed a steady decrease in
    armed robbery with firearms, this has changed drastically upward in the past
    12 months, since the criminals now are guaranteed that their prey is
    unarmed.
    There has also been a dramatic increase in break-ins and assaults of
    the elderly, while the resident is at home.

    Australian politicians are at a loss to explain how public safety has
    decreased, after such monumental effort and expense was expended in
    "successfully ridding Australian society of guns." You won't see this
    on the Canadian evening news.
    The Australian experience speaks for itself. Guns in the hands of
    honest citizens save lives and property and, yes, gun-control laws affect
    only the law-abiding citizens.

    Take note Canadians, before it's too late!

    FORWARD TO EVERYONE ON YOUR EMAIL LIST. [I DID ]
    DON'T BE A MEMBER OF THE SILENT MAJORITY.
    BE ONE OF THE VOCAL MINORITY WHO WON'T LET THIS HAPPEN IN CANADA.

  3. Fri Feb 17, 2006 8:13 pm
    The best example ever, for those who believe banning handguns will 'prevent' crime.

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    "I think it's important to always carry enough technology to restart civilization, should it be necessary." Mark Tilden

  4. Fri Feb 17, 2006 11:00 pm
    I have an issue with the gun laws that has absolutely nothing to do with guns. It has to do with Canadians being safe and secure in their own homes. Not safe and secure from criminals, but rather, safe and secure from unreasonable search and seizure by the police.

    If a Canadian has a registered gun, a police officer has the right to walk into that home without notice any time (day or night) to check to see if the gun is stored properly. Since rural Canadians need guns, this is in effect a law that lets cops walk into almost every rural home at any time without a search warrant or probable cause. If your local cop hates you, he can check on your guns every night at 3am, and you have no recourse.

    This kind of police state frightens me. It should frighten you too.

  5. Fri Feb 17, 2006 11:08 pm
    The registry is not a bad concept. However, the price tag certainly is. For the life of me I can't figure out why is costs $2 billion plus to register some 20 million guns, when it doesn't cost near that much to register every car in the country or to run an election that involves every adult in Canada. As an owner, I don't mind registering my guns... it's even a decent idea. It's a good idea to have it linked to the police databases. Even at the low percentages listed in this article (which don't take into consideration any crime other than homicide so the % is a bit skewed - but that's irrelevant), the registry would still be fine if it cost a few million dollars. It shouldn't cost more than a buck or two per gun for the hardware, software, data security, labour costs and comms links for the initial set up (let's say some $40 million if there is 20 million guns). That's reasonable. Then the salaries and upgrades that follow should cost somewhere in the neighborhood of half the set up costs... so $20 million a year. That's still an expensive system, but we'd have spent under $200 million so far. I have yet to see a detailed breakdown of the costs involved, so I don't know what the Liberals did to up the charges by 1000% of my estimates (especially when their initial estimates were $2 million).

  6. Sat Feb 18, 2006 2:08 am
    >>If a Canadian has a registered gun, a police officer has the right to walk into that home without notice any time (day or night) to check to see if the gun is stored properly. Since rural Canadians need guns, this is in effect a law that lets cops walk into almost every rural home at any time without a search warrant or probable cause. If your local cop hates you, he can check on your guns every night at 3am, and you have no recourse.

    This kind of police state frightens me. It should frighten you too.<<

    It scares me that you think that way. Have you many examples of this actualy happening?

  7. Sat Feb 18, 2006 2:12 am
    The same law/permit has been in effect for Revenue Canada for decades. When we were fighting the tax raids against farmers in 1983-84, we found that RC had the right to enter any home, take away anything, even empty all the furniture , take away the books of a business and never return them etc. etc. There were numerous examples where such actions were taken. People went home from work to find a moving van in front of the house, with RC loading all their possessions, emptying the childrens' bank accounts etc. They didn't need a court warrant even then. I still have a filing drawer full of such horror stories.

    Ed Deak.

  8. Sat Feb 18, 2006 3:00 am
    "It scares me that you think that way. Have you many examples of this actualy happening?"

    Absolutely none. My point is that it's legal for police to do this now. I think it's only a matter of time until we see it happen. Should we wait?

  9. Sat Feb 18, 2006 3:04 am
    It is true that in Canada we have no right to property. Were these farmers in arrears on their taxes? If so, I guess it's arguably justifiable. Can you provide more information on this? I would really like to see these horror stories.

    Now you can be a law abiding farmer, pay your taxes, and have no right to say no to random police inspections. We need to stand up to rights abuses like these.

  10. Sat Feb 18, 2006 4:49 am
    I hadn't realise the state has that much authority, and we all know the state NEVER oversteps it authority. wink wink

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    Nothing in this World makes People so Afraid as the Influence of an Independant Minded Individual.
    Attrib. Al EINSTEIN

  11. Sat Feb 18, 2006 6:43 am
    Well get ready to be biomatrixed. I have posted an article with Doris Day flapping his jaws and Denis Coderre joining in the choir. Some of us that never thought we would own a gun may be thinking twice about getting one or four.

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    "And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music." Friedrich Nietzsche

  12. Sat Feb 18, 2006 5:03 pm
    Stoutlimb,

    Unfortunately, I don't have the time for detailed explanation the farm tax raids, as I can take only a few minutes at a time.

    The raids were also directed at other people, but mostly at farmers who had outside incomes and deducted farm expenses and losses from their incomes. It was legal, but some bureaucrats persuaded Revenue Minister, Pierre Bussieres to hire a whole new bunch of auditors, who fanned across the country and made it sure that the "backtaxes" they calculated were, in most cases, under $7,000., which was about the break even point for an appeal, making the appeal worthless. Then, when people still appealed, they found that by that time the former auditors were on the appeal board and the same people, who made the original decisions, also judged the appeals.

    Meantime, RC unilaterally emptied the bank accounts of many people, including of children. This brought on a major public outrage with the papers and TV full of reports and horror stories.

    The PC Party sent a committee across the country, listening and collecting evidence. I went down to Kamloops with a couple of people from the then Cariboo Chilcotin Farmers Alliance and presented papers of cases in our district. We also listened to some of the stories by a long line of other people. There was a poor little woman who had a coffee shop. They hit her for something like $1,500. then emptied her bank account of $1,200. a lot of money in those days, but they credited somebody else with the money. Then they couldn't find where the money went and she still owed $1,500., lost her coffee shop and was on welfare, with RC still demanding the $1,500.

    Some of the cases were unbelievable and we concluded that the main trust was the elimination of the family farm system. I remember seeing a bearded economist by the name of Lang, on TV, who said: "We have to subsidize farmers to get them off the land!" and the tax raids were part of this program.

    In any case, the scandal the raids caused contributed in a big way to the fall of the Liberals, although John Turner's first act, after he took over from Trudeau, was to fire Bussieres. I also had some lengthy correspondence with Finance Minister Marc Lalonde on the issue, who claimed he didn't know anything about the actions of RC and appeared embarrassed.

    One interesting footnote: Our PC MP at the time was Lorne Greenaway, campaigning for re-election in 1984. We were having a Farmers Alliance meeting at the Williams lake stockyards one night, when Greenaway walked in and sat down at the end of the table, all worn out and visibly depressed.

    So, I said to him : "What are you so miserable about, Lorne, you guys will be in power in a couple of weeks ?"

    "We'll be in government allright" - said Lorne- "but what worries me is what the blundering idiots in my party will do with that power!"

    I didn't vote for him, as I didn't trust Mulroney even then. We soon found out what he did with the power, as we're still paying for it and will forever.

    Ed Deak, Big Lake. BC.

  13. Sat Feb 18, 2006 10:43 pm
    Thanks, that has been very informative. Is there anywhere you could suggest on the net that I can do some more reading on my own?

    S

  14. Sun Feb 19, 2006 1:56 am
    I've tried it on google since you asked for it, but can't get anything. Pierre Bussieres is listed for his political achievements, but when I tried "tax raids 1983-84 Canada" in various ways, it came up with a lot of other things.

    The biggest issue were the until then unknown rights of RC to enter homes, take away anything they wanted etc. without any search warrants, or court permits. You may find something on this line. There were also some court cases over this, which may have been written up in lawbooks.

    I must still have a lot in my files, but, unfortunately, I don't have the time to go through the years of accumulated junk and couldn't put any scans on this site anyway.

    Ed Deak.



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