Harper Majority Unlikely

Posted on Thursday, January 03 at 10:28 by N Say
A Dec. 21 Ipsos-Reid horse race poll showed the Tories at 35% and the Grits at 33%. Wright said Harper continues to dominate on questions of leadership but that is proving to not necessarily be a big advantage for the prime minister. "It may be true, but is it the leadership that Canadians want? Is he leading on the things that people really want? Is he leading on the ethical capital that people want? It's one thing to be admired for being a leader and it is another thing to be the leader that I want," said Wright. "I think we're at a bit of stalemate. It continues to be a bit of a referendum on Mr. Harper as opposed [to] the Conservatives or their policies. It really is him." The poll questioned Canadians on the political horizon for 2008 by asking them if they thought there was a good or bad chance of something happening. Three-quarters (73%) believe there is a good chance that there will be a federal election called in Canada this year and two-thirds (63%) believe that Harper will be re-elected. Only 31% predicted that there is a good chance he will win a majority. Respondents in Quebec gave Harper his slimmest chance of winning a majority -- only 26% expected a majority win --while those in Alberta, at 55%, predicted his greatest shot at winning control of the House of Commons. Sixty-six per cent of male respondents said Harper had a good chance of being re-elected while 60% of women felt the same way. When asked if they thought there was a good or bad chance of Harper winning a majority, 42% of women drew a blank on the question compared to only 35% of males. ... http://www.nationalpost.com/rss/story.html?id=211065

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  1. Thu Jan 03, 2008 6:49 pm
    According to IPSOS REID : (and I agree) Looking ahead to 2008, there are lots of things in politics that could be chanced -- and so, we asked Canadians what they thought was a good or bad chance of something happening. The results of the new Ipsos Reid poll conducted on behalf of CanWest News Service and Global Television are in, and here are Canadian’s prognostications:

    Three quarters (73%) believe that there is a good chance that there will be a federal election called in Canada in 2008, and two thirds (63%) believe that Stephen Harper will be re-elected. However, only 31% believe that he will get a majority government.

  2. by siljan
    Thu Jan 03, 2008 7:48 pm
    Harper majority? God help us all.<br />
    <br />
    "The Harper Government is one of the most loathsome, mean-spirited, self-serving gang of rougues I've ever witnessed"<br />
    (according to a former political hack in the Harris government)<br />
    <br />
    How about one of the most corrupt and dangerous as well, supported mainly by a narrow economic elite and delusional religious freaks who call themselves 'christians'. <br />
    Nine out of ten supporters of the former Alliance party will vote against their own best interests. In other words totally out of ignorance.<br />
    <br />
    <a href="http://www.harperindex.ca/ViewArticle.cfm?Ref=00125">http://www.harperindex.ca/ViewArticle.cfm?Ref=00125</a>

  3. Thu Jan 03, 2008 8:31 pm
    Well what on earth do you expect from a hack inside the Harris gov't ... good grief ... And as far as corrupt goes you have to be kidding or else just brain dead more than like ly the latter (Antiquis temporibus, nati tibi similes in rupibus ventosissimis exponebantur ad necem)

  4. by siljan
    Thu Jan 03, 2008 9:39 pm
    Oops.. did I step on somebodys toes here? A board member of a multi national corporation perhaps? Or a fundamentalist christian preacher maybe?

    It could very well be that psiclone is a former canadian alliance supporter, swinging wildly in all directions that do not conform to his ideology. This is done mainly out of ignorance of course.

  5. Thu Jan 03, 2008 10:10 pm
    Actually I am afraid you are wrong on all accounts. I was one of the first Administrators for one of the first Internet Service Providers in Canada and for a long time a devout Liberal. I volunteered for Trudeau in point of fact and ended up working on a group that advised in areas of Policy and Development for the Lib's as well as many other areas though the years (sort of let's you know how far off the mark you were EH!)and until recently gave up on ever again having a strong leader in Canada who could stand up to the media and say screw you and follow his own agenda (whether I agree with it or not) I like Harper though I would not want a Conservative majority but that will never happen anyways so in the meantime I have cancelled my liberal party membership (which is way down by the way)and joined the conservative party (riding association meeting coming up soon too I might just help there as well). And get this I am not alone I have just met several others who feel exactly the same way! HMMMMMMM!

  6. Thu Jan 03, 2008 10:29 pm
    "I would not want a Conservative majority but that will never happen anyways"

    "and joined the conservative party" + "I am not alone I have just met several others who feel exactly the same way!"

    Read again what you just wrote.

    You don't want a consertive majority, but you joined the party anyway.

    You don't think the consertives will get a majority, but you have "met several others who feel exactly the same way".

    Am I the only one who sees the problem here?



    In any case, I guess that means you're still stuck in the left/right, liberal/conservative false dichotomies. You think you changed anything by changing party? They're just two sides of the same coin. Sure, sometimes they backstab each other and stuff to give people the impression they have a choice, but you can be certain that they will band together against us if they can profit from it.

    The Sharp Wolf

    "The good news is that the Republicans lost. The bad news is that the Democrats won. Two faces, same monster."
    "The structure of government itself is the problem, not which collection of puppets pretends to maintain it."

  7. Thu Jan 03, 2008 10:32 pm
    "You don't want a consertive majority, but you joined the party anyway.

    Am I the only one who sees the problem here?"

    The two are not mutually exclusive. I don't want any party to have a majority, seeing how Harper seems to be getting things done with a minority.

    Majorities lead to abuse. Being on a knife edge seems to keep them focused.

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    The preceding comment deals with mature subject matter, however immaturely presented. Viewer discretion is advised.

  8. Thu Jan 03, 2008 10:45 pm
    yes ... yes ... I do not want a Conservative majority but I could tolerate one however I definitely do not want a Liberal Minority or Majority. Let's face it everyone the next election will just be an excuse for the Liberal Party to dump Dion as that is the only way they can get rid of him (at least this is what some old contacts of mine in the party are saying)therefore the logic remains consistent with my principles. I am a political creature who keeps his integrity by joing and volunteering for the political party I am supporting and since I live on Vancouver Island the likelihood of any conservative winning here is about 1 in 100 though I think there might be 1 or 2 around here somewhere (I really should look into that)I have strange feeling that the Liberals are going to rush into an election that few want and lose even more seats (the next sound you hear will be Liberal rats leaving the ship and boarding a NDP or maybe Green Parties) in either event another Conservative Minority will be the optimum outcome!

  9. by siljan
    Fri Jan 04, 2008 12:52 am
    Yes Dr.Caleb, Harper seems to get things done alright. If by that you mean something positive for the majority of Canadians, it's lost on me. There must be something good and in the interest of ordinary people, but nothing comes to mind as I am writing this.

    Harper and his Government did however end the National child-care program, destroy the 'Kelowna accord with the Aboriginal people, getting us deeper in the American fradulent 'war on terrorism' in Afghanistan, ended the funding for the adult literacy program, chopped the Youth Employment Strategy, did away with the Court Challenge Program, which had funded legal action by human rights advocates, and on and on in the trademark mean- spiritedness of the Rebublican party play-book.

    Not to forget making us the laughing stock of the world when it comes to to the enviroment. In pleasing his corporate masters, Harper pulled us out of the Kyoto agreement and instead opted for the 'Clean Air Act' to go into effect 2050 I think it was. The social welfare net for the large corporations remain firmly in place of course with $1.5 billion/year in subsidies for the Alberta Oilpatch for example.


    "...stand up to the media and say screw you and follow your own agenda"

    It's not only the media that gets this treatment psiclone, but Harper is 'giving the finger' to anyone and everyone who doesn't agree with him. Having to sign a list if you are a member of the press gallery and want to ask Harper a question is not my idea of tranparency. I am not a liberal, but I prefer Trudeau's way of dealing with journalists; he would take them on head on, while Harper follows his 'war on the media' and sneaks out the back door.

  10. Fri Jan 04, 2008 2:09 am
    I can't imagine how anybody could vote for anybody associated with Harper.

    But then people also voted for Hitler and Manning and Bush, and the Reform Party is now governing Canada federally and in most provinces under a variety of different names and disguises.

    Ed Deak.

  11. Sat Jan 05, 2008 7:06 am
    "I am not a liberal, but I prefer Trudeau's way of dealing with journalists; he
    would take them on head on, while Harper follows his 'war on the media' and
    sneaks out the back door."

    Politicians no longer have the balls to take on anybody - not even a corporate
    controlled, lying, ass kissing media. They are a bunch of cowards who choose
    flight over fight when the sh*t hits the fan. If these are the qualities you look for
    in a leader, go for it. Basically, you don't need a Prime Minister to sweep things
    under the rug - a janitor can do that job for you.

  12. Sat Jan 05, 2008 7:24 am
    "Politicians no longer have the balls to take on anybody - not even a corporate
    controlled, lying, ass kissing media" Thak you thank you thank you I was coming out of a low and that rocketed me to laughter
    truth has a way of doing that

    ---
    "When I tell the truth, it is not for the sake of convincing those who do not know it, but for the sake of defending those that do."

    William Blake



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