Canadians To Need ID Cards, Day Says

Posted on Saturday, February 18 at 12:50 by 4Canada
"I don't know if we'll call it that, but we want good, law-abiding people to have smooth and quick access at all border points — not just North American, but international." New life is being breathed into the proposal now that the United States has dropped its demand that Canadians be required to show passports to cross the border. "We also want to be able to stop people who are a menace or a threat from getting in or getting out, so that's the overall goal," Day said. Day said the need for identification of some sort came up again this week when he spoke on the phone with his U.S. counterpart, Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff. "I think it's fair to say that in both Canada and the U.S. we do want some kind of enhanced security provision," he said. "Whether that's some kind of a biometric approach, an enhancement on a driver's licence — all of that needs to be explored, so we do want to see enhanced technological capacity in that area." http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&pubid=968163964505&cid=1140173729164&col=968705899037&call_page=TS_News&call_pageid=968332188492&call_pagepath=News/News [Proofreader's note: this article was edited for spelling and typos on February 19, 2006]

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  1. Sat Feb 18, 2006 10:10 pm
    <a href="http://www.vivelecanada.ca/forum/viewtopic.php?showtopic=15075">http://www.vivelecanada.ca/forum/viewtopic.php?showtopic=15075</a><br />
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    I started a forum topic on this last night.<br />
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    I have intimate inside information on these biometric cards. I support their application for high security workplaces, but in no uncertain terms, would I ever support them for all Canadians.<br />
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    Need I say it - Be Afraid.<p>---<br>If there was ever a time for Canadians to become pushy - now is the time - for time is running out on this nation called Canada.

  2. Sat Feb 18, 2006 10:52 pm
    Its funny ... I travel abroad quite often and the only problem I've ever had crossing an international border with my Canadian Passport was going into the States.

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    "The more you read and learn, the less your adversary will know." --Sun Tzu

  3. by shagya
    Sun Feb 19, 2006 12:36 am
    What the public has to do is just refuse ID cards. No fooling around with this like the bullshit with photographic driver's licences.

    The thing about Stock is his simple-mindedness. This is the guy that thinks the world is six thousand years old. Tyrannies are always made that much worse by the stupid.

  4. by Spanky
    Sun Feb 19, 2006 7:27 am
    >>>The thing about Stock is his simple-mindedness. This is the guy that thinks the world is six thousand years old. Tyrannies are always made that much worse by the stupid.<<<

    Or what's even scarier, he could be thinking (like many Christian fundamentalists) that Jesus is going to sweep all the good Christians up into heaven in the rapture any day now, and only the unbelievers and unfaithful sinners will be left on earth to suffer through the tribulation times along with the anti-Christ world dictator.

    Since the world is going to hell in a hand basket anyway, there'd be no sense losing any sleep over trivial things like losses of personal freedoms and losses of civil liberties. Stock and like minded believers probably feel secure in the knowledge that by the time the fecal matter hits the circular ventilator down here on hell-bound earth, he and his buddies will have already been raptured to sit on the clouds of heaven (no doubt each fully equipped with a set of angel's wings and harp) from where they'll cast the occasional look down below while tut-tutting to each other at the mayhem and murder they observe taking place.

  5. Sun Feb 19, 2006 7:37 am
    Stockwell Day said on Thursday according to the Friday National Post: "We'll arm our border with U.S."
    Looks like this other stupid idea has gone unnoticed. I was betting that DAY would be the first Conservative to put his foot in his mouth and I think he has done so. He is going to have to be kept under close watch. Our Minister of Public Security is our first foremost security threat. Orwell: where are you when we need you?

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    "We are all in this together somehow, some more than others somehow"

  6. Sun Feb 19, 2006 7:53 am
    Ooopsie I missed the other Stockwell Day story. Looks like this guy will keep us busy. Any idea for preemptive action? 24 hours surveillance of Stockwell?

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    "We are all in this together somehow, some more than others somehow"

  7. by avatar Spud
    Sun Feb 19, 2006 5:26 pm
    HOW do these idiots get elected?WHO actually voted for this moron?Has the country dumbed down that much?
    It appears so.


    Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people.....
    it is true that most stupid people are conservative.

    John Stuart Mills 1806-1873

  8. by RPW
    Sun Feb 19, 2006 6:37 pm
    "When a place gets crowded enough to require ID's, social collapse is not far away."
    - Robert A. Heinlein

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    RickW

  9. Sun Feb 19, 2006 8:41 pm
    Stockwell day got elected in the Central Okanagan, which for many years has been electing, reform, then alliance, then CPoC for a long time. Ever since the elction after Cretien's first term.

    Its quite sad really. Lots of Christians in that area as well.

    Day can blow it out his ass. Sellout peice of trash.

  10. Sun Feb 19, 2006 11:56 pm
    People really don`t think, or analyze all of the issues, when they vote. Many tend to pick the main issue that directly affects them now, and vote accordingly.

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    Dave Ruston

  11. Mon Feb 20, 2006 12:00 am
    Not only is Day simple-minded, through personal experience I know him to be a straight-up liar as well. He was my MP for a few years. While he was running in his first election campaign for Okanagan-Coquihalla (actually centred on the Nicola Valley) in 2000, I had the pleasure of a personal exchange with the man on the streets of Merritt. I had heard him saying on television that if the Alliance was elected to govern Canada, he would scrap what he called "fluff programs," youth programs like Katimavik and Canada World Youth, brainchilds of Senator Jacques Hebert and PM Trudeau. Having just been excepted to the Katimavik program (and later to participate in CWY), I had a question for Day. I saw him on the street surrounded by his groupies one day and asked him what he thought of Heritage and CIDA-funded youth programs. "Oh, I think they're great tools for the youth of this great country and we support them ..." Blah, blah. I fed him his own quote that he had said not a week before, called him a liar who would never get my vote and walked away. A prouder 18-year-old Merritt had never seen. About six months later, I travelled to the House of Commons with my Katimavik group to meet our MP's and Senator Hebert. Half a dozen MP's never bothered showing-up, including my beloved Mr. Day. All absent MP's were Alliance, no present MP's were Alliance. Assholes. And now, more or less, the assholes that govern the country.

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    "The more you read and learn, the less your adversary will know." --Sun Tzu

  12. by RPW
    Mon Feb 20, 2006 2:16 am
    <blockquote> Not only is Day simple-minded..... </blockquote> People vote for simple-minded platforms. That a politician, pushing a simple-minded platform, is simple-minded himself, is a bonus, as he is less apt to screw things up with facts. That's how the Nazis got in, in Germany, and how the Fascists got in, in Italy...........that and a predilection for the governing party which they displace to be corrupt beyond tolerance. <p>---<br>RickW

  13. Mon Feb 20, 2006 2:18 am
    ah yes the central Okanagan <br />
    right wing central for bc<br />
    Home of WAC(Y) Bennet<br />
    Canada's answert to Louisannas Huey (the Kingfish) Long<br />
    <br />
    <br />
    please read this<br />
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    <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Columbia_general_election%2C_1952">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Columbia_general_election%2C_1952</a><br />
    <p>---<br>People are more violently opposed to fur than leather because it's safer to harass rich women than motorcycle gangs. <br />
    Alexei Sayle

  14. by Deacon
    Mon Feb 20, 2006 3:56 am
    Actually WAC Bennett did a lot of good for BC: he understood that for BC to grow certain areas had to be kept off limits to free for all "private enterprise"

    His government purchased BC Gas and Electric (later became BC Hydro) as well as the railway that later became BC Rail.

    Both crown corporation currently under Campbell's assinine privatization axe.

    WAC was not your typical "right winger" in the modern sense of the word.



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