Foisting An American Liberal "Democracy" Upon Iraq Has Cost The Peop

Posted on Friday, October 29 at 11:29 by canuck
Most of the extra deaths in the first 18 months of the occupation were due to violence, the researchers said – in particular, air strikes that claimed civilian casualties. "Most individuals reportedly killed by coalition forces were women and children," they wrote. Previous estimates of the number of Iraqis killed during the American-led air strikes and occupation have ranged from 10,000 to 30,000. The report in the British journal is based on the work of teams from Johns Hopkins University, Columbia University and the Al-Mustansiriya University in Baghdad. The authors acknowledge that the data cited in the study might be of "limited precision." However, similar methodology was used in the late 1990s to calculate the number of deaths from the war in Kosovo, put at 10,000. The information was obtained as Iraqi interviewers surveyed 808 families, consisting of 7,868 people, in 33 different "clusters" or neighbourhoods spread across the country. In each case, they asked how many births and deaths there had been in the home since January 2002. That information was then compared with the death rates in each neighbourhood in the 15 months before the invasion that toppled president Saddam Hussein, adjusted for the different time frames, and extrapolated to cover the entire 24.4 million population of Iraq. The researchers came up with the figure of 100,000 extra deaths based on the fact that the rate rose from five deaths per 1,000 people before the war to 12.3 deaths per 1,000 in the 18 months that followed its start. Fallujah neighbourhood factored out: One neighbourhood in the besieged city of Fallujah may have boosted the numbers unnaturally, the researchers pointed out. But even with that neighbourhood taken out, the death rate was 7.9 per 1,000 people – 50 per cent higher during the occupation than in the months before. "We estimate that there were 98,000 extra deaths during the post-war period in the 97 per cent of Iraq represented by all the clusters except Fallujah," the researchers said in the journal. Nearly 1,100 American soldiers have also died in the conflict. Before the invasion, the most common causes of death in Iraq were heart attacks, strokes and other chronic diseases, the Lancet report said. Since early 2002, violence was by far the main cause of death, linked to coalition air strikes in about 95 per cent of cases where people died by the intentional act of others. Infant mortality also rose significantly. http://www.cbc.ca/story/world/national/2004/10/28/iraq_deaths041028.html http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3962969.stm http://www.thelancet.com/ http://www.who.int/countries/irq/en/

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  1. by N Say
    Fri Oct 29, 2004 8:15 pm
    I subbed this too... I think as far as American invasions go, it's been pretty good so far, as far as civilian casualties are concerned. How many Vietnamese, Thais, Cambodians, Dominicans, Nicaraguans, Haitians, Guatemalans etc have been killed over the years as a result of American invasions? I deaths I mean deaths due to US soldiers killing people, not depleted uranium getting lodged in someone's lungs to radiate away for the rest of their lives, or Agent Orange causing birth defects, etc etc.

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  2. Sat Oct 30, 2004 1:52 am
    A bullshit story if there ever was one. How do I know that? You see I interviewed 10 billion people over my cellphone while sitting in traffic in my SUV and they all confirmed it was b.s. That is the erudite conclusion reached by my small survey sample and using statistical projection. You are welcome.

  3. by avatar canuck
    Sat Oct 30, 2004 6:09 am
    So what's your point? The reseachers state in the article the precision of the survey is limited... that is why they decided to use CONSERVATIVE numbers.

  4. by hoopoe
    Sat Oct 30, 2004 4:57 pm
    Self-deception must be very comforting.

  5. by michou
    Sat Oct 30, 2004 9:27 pm
    The Way to Hell .... and Beyond
    By James W. Hackett  
     
    I
    Drawn to the art of ancient China
    I leave the clean, green air of home
    and forego the sacred mount
    of Emptiness . . .
    to find the serene vision of Tao
    ––museumed for survival––
    in a world gone mad.
     
    What an unwitting conjurer of Hell

    is man . . .
    Just witness the concrete monuments
    to our ‘"triumph" over nature:
    the megacities
    ––that could well become tombs––
    fashioned from hubris
    by our hand.
     
    Still, a remnant hope remains
    that our species might yet awaken
    to treasure and maintain
    Heaven’s miraculous dream of Life
    on Eden earth.
     
    II
    For if suffering humanity
    knew the Ancient Spirit
    ––that embraces all
    we would create a world society
    whose reverence for Life
    could flower the earth
    with Buddha’s compassion
    and the love Christ commands . . .
    A community of cultures
    so bound to the sovereignty
    of the universal Spirit
    ––we all share––
    that the hubris and greed of nations
    would give way
    to a "commonwealth of the world:"
    one planned with Heaven’s universal view
    for peace and sharing . . .
    where species’ rights
    would receive respect,
    and competition per se
    would breed contempt––
    save for the common good of all.
     
    III
    A Utopian dream?
    Well, pray it may be more––
    for the nightmare of nuclear holocaust
    demands
    that we wake and see beyond
    our conceptual walls of mind ...
    and realize a world
    where allegiance
    to any nation, "race," or faith
    is sanctified by the truth
    of universal oneness.
     
    So for centuries do the seers wail,
    yet the "wilderness" best hear their
    echo NOW
    for times of bloody terror
    command
    that such a melioristic vision
    will prevail
    of a higher life
    for humankind
    and for the planet.
     
     
    ©2004 by James W. Hackett

  6. by N Say
    Sun Oct 31, 2004 1:08 am
    this was published in the Lancet though, which is one of the most prestigious medical journals in the world. It's right up there with the New England Journal of Medicine. I don't know how anything could be published in there without being rock-solid.

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  7. by RPW
    Sun Oct 31, 2004 5:01 pm
    Actually, the whole thing is just a Hollywood set, with some George Lucas/Steven Speilberg effects thrown in: <p> http://www.newline.com/sites/wagthedog/ </p> <p>There are no casualties, because there is no Iraq. In fact the whole Middle East is a fabrication, not unlike HG Wells The War of The Worlds:</p> http://www.war-ofthe-worlds.co.uk/<p>---<br>RickW



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