Living Under Fascism

A minister who sees reality, who'd of thunk it. Good article, tyranny response.

The American government is fascist and has been for a while now. They don't conquer the world through mainly military strength, even though they have a large amount of it, but through their economy and policies. The whole world knows it and so do many Americans. Unfortunately, Canada and Mexico is between this force of fascism and the Americans who don't like it are right in the middle.

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Do people who throw around "fascism" on this site know it actually has a definition? Do they read well enough without moving their lips to look it up? It helps debate when we can all agree on the meaning of terms. ONe would think even Canadian schools would teach this.

So what other word would you use to characterise the US government?

It's a democratic republic with power divided between the executive, legislative and judicial branches. That sums it up pretty well. What is Canada -- a people's republic?

A Banana Republic - see Adscam, Liberal Party, et al.

Wrong.

There is nothing democratic about the US government. They are, in fact, officially, a representative republic. So, at best, the US government could be called Representative because it allows atleast some groups of people impose their vision in government, but it is far from being a democracy.

Personally, I would use terms like Authoritarian, Totalitiarian, or Despotic to describe the bush admin.

"What is Canada -- a people's republic?"

Being more social than the US doesn't make us like Communist China. So stop tossing around these euphemisms. I would've thought someone who despises socialism in all its forms to be happy to live in a constitutional monarchy...

Canuck dwells in deep ignorance and it seems a fool's game to try to correct. Just what is a representative Republic, apart from a tautology? (Look the word up, Canadians). As there is some confusion about what form of government Canada itself enjoys, it is unrealistic to expect them to know what the neighborhood to the south has.

Ah, but Jerry, it does seem a game you enjoy playing...meaning?<br><br> Took your advice and looked up definition of fascism. Top of the page was:<br><br> <blockquote> An extreme form of nationalism that played on fears of communism and rejected individual freedom, liberal individualism, democracy, and limitations on the state. </blockquote><br><br> Of course, there are more:<br><br> <blockquote> political philosophy or movement that places the nation or the race above the individual and that stands for highly centralized government led by a dictator; belief in militarism, racism, and nationalism; opposition to democracy and human rights.</blockquote><br><br> As we're both aware, some of the U.S. founding fathers feared the perceived 'mob' element of democracy, some even favoured creation of an aristocracy. They settled on a republic, which as the Romans knew, can offer the masses an illusion of democracy (people power, so to speak) without necessarily delivering the goods.<br><br> Regardless of how some in the dis-United States may choose to delude themselves and others as to the reality and motives of their governing class, many, both in the U.S. and others, may have some concerns as to the rather eery similarity between current U.S. direction and the above-noted definitions.<br><br> I liked 'tautology'. Amazing what they're putting on the back of Captain Crunch boxes today - crunchy Crunch. Keep up the good work. <p>---<br>"When we are in the middle of the paradigm, it is hard to imagine any other paradigm" (Adam Smith). <br />

The only people who say the US is a democracy are the politicians and those who believe them.

Although, I am mistaken by describing the US as a representative republic (the definitions keep changing). According to the CIA, the US is (administratively) a constitution-based federal republic with (historically) democratic traditions.

As well, part of this confusion stems from the fact that the same person is both head of government and head of state in the US.

So, I will clarify that Canada (historically) is a constitutional monarchy and (adminstratively) a confederation with a bicameral parliamentary democracy.

That fact is that the will of the people has little to do with deciding government policy, especially in the US. You can argue terminology all you want, but you can't dismiss the fact that it is the US government deciding what policies americans are to support rather than the other way around. This is called manufacturing consent. They have done this mainly by exaggerating threats posed by terrorism and exploiting Americans fears of being attacked. This is how they've been able to skirt around Due Process, to justify indefinite imprisonment, and perform search and seizures without warrant.... do you really believe that every person being held in Gitmo are fanatical suicide bombers? Not a single one has been charged with a crime. I could go on, but why don't you try to explain to me what makes the US so democratic as opposed to fascist?

Fascism is the wrong word, as other than a handful of bone heads it died out years ago. But there can be a kind of substitute for fascism that could take over in the US. Neocon thought is a crude cobbling together of half-truths and outright lies, just like Nazism. Neocons wish to restrict democracy, crush dissent, believe like fascists in the glory of war and empire, practice the Big Lie technique, believe in a war-based corporate state, want to destroy unions and beat down the workers, are misogynist (fearing the "feminization" of America) and racist toward Arabs, Canadians, French and anyone else who does not lick Bush's ass and many of their supporters have totally irrational beliefs like the world being 6000 years old or that Isreal can seize the West Bank to create Greater Isreal and Christ will beam them up when Armageddon occurs.
Not fascism exactly, but a close substitute like their old pal - and mentor Pinochet.

hello,

Democracy ain't winning that's for sure. y'see a bunch of old greeks sitting around chewing the fat maybe one every 3000 years, and won't again for 'nuther 2980.

Manufacturing consent. Ah, the well has been poisoned by Noam Chomsky. Widen your reading and we'll talk in a year or two.

Are Canadians a race now? The rest of the posting is riddled with error of a similar magnitude.