That's More Like It, Jack !

Posted on Thursday, March 04 at 21:18 by Perturbed
Mr. Layton recently floated the idea of taxing southbound energy exports in order to force the United States to abandon its campaign against Canadian softwood lumber, as well as reopening the border to shipments of Canadian live cattle, barred after the discovery of a case of mad-cow disease in Alberta last May.

The NDP proposal was condemned yesterday at the Woodrow Wilson Forum on Cross-Border Business, with a number of speakers lambasting Mr. Layton in their formal remarks, and afterward............

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  1. Sat Mar 06, 2004 6:39 am
    There are certain things that NAFTA will not allow us to do. Jack doesn\'t get it.

    He MUST abrogate NAFTA before he starts making these suggestions.

    They won\'t work with NAFTA in place.

    I hope someone tells him soon. I have tried by email, but he hasn\'t replied to my ideas.

    He certainly will not form the next government, and it is very doubtful that he would become the party of choice to support a minority government.

    Martin is right wing and so are the \"C\'s\", so why would they even entertain the NDP as the balance of power ??



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    Jim Callaghan
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  2. Sat Mar 06, 2004 7:55 am
    Wait a minute Jim, they won\'t be deciding, we will!! So perhaps Jack is well informed on the NAFTA situation and he\'s just testing the water...get Canadians thinking about why things are the way they are? I think Jack is on the right track, the only thing that scares me is the American interference in our elections!
    sorry it\'s me Whelan Costen

  3. by N Say
    Sat Mar 06, 2004 7:55 am
    Layton has regular meetings with Mel Hurtig, I\'m sure he knows how important it is to kill NAFTA. The only reason he hasn\'t been really vocal about it is because he\'d be met with a chorus from the media of \"Layton is against trade\" etc. Just like they tried to tell the papers that he wants to \"cocoon\" Canada, when he only wants us to do things that will benefit ourselves.

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  4. Sat Mar 06, 2004 8:50 am
    Can you be more specific about American interference?

    (I mean besides the \'63 debacle, and the barrage of \"Think-tank studies.\"

  5. by N Say
    Sat Mar 06, 2004 9:21 am
    Mulroney\'s PC Party took money from foreigners, used Republican-party fundraisers, & some other stuff I\'d have to look up. Mulroney also had American advisors too I think.

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    "So many right-wing Christians, so few lions." - t-shirt I saw @ school

  6. Sat Mar 06, 2004 1:46 pm
    NSay,

    I agree with you. I think Jack knows very well what NAFTA is all about and what he can or can\'t do under that agreement. His playing the cards right by not coming straight out and talking about abolishing NAFTA.

    Kevin Gagnon
    www.kevingagnon.ca

  7. by avatar Milton
    Sat Mar 06, 2004 5:18 pm
    Show that NAFTA only works for the USA by suing the US government, under Chapter 11 of the NAFTA regulations, for the estimated loss of revenue due to the import ban on cows, the tariffs placed on softwood and sales revenue lost due to the tariffs on soft wood.
    If a US company can sue and win a multi million dollar settlement from a Mexican town that vetos the creation of a toxic waste dump within the town limits then Canada can certainly sue the US for not allowing our mad cows in.

  8. Sat Mar 06, 2004 8:39 pm
    Jack\'s ideas will have us freezing in the dark here in Ontario. There\'s good reason that each trade item is treated individually as much as possible, tying trade items together could end up stopping the whole show. Canada needs to trade and 80% of our stuff goes South, threatening them over some stupid wood is not a good idea. Let them cut down their trees, we\'ll keep ours growing, and in the future get an even better price for them when they run out.

  9. Mon Mar 08, 2004 11:37 pm
    What's interesting to note is Ed Broadbent's pass and how he actually supported FTA during the last few days before the deadline that was set.

    Turns out the Union helped change his support for the FTA after he was clearly oppose to it.

    Its becoming more clear to me now that the NDP needs to do some changes with their connections with the Union as proposed by CAP when they had proposed to merge.

    Kevin Gagnon

  10. Tue Mar 09, 2004 7:30 am
    Yep! That`s more like it, Jack! Kevin, how and why should the NDP distance itself from unions? I think that it is a natural fit, if the NDP is supposed to represent the underdog and working class.

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    Dave Ruston

  11. Tue Mar 09, 2004 2:45 pm
    Remember that the most vulnerable workers are not unionized, while those unionized have usually good salaries.

  12. Tue Mar 09, 2004 3:33 pm
    Yes, that`s true!

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    Dave Ruston

  13. Tue Mar 09, 2004 5:36 pm
    Explain to me how the Union in Canada is protected since FTA?

  14. Tue Mar 09, 2004 5:46 pm
    Well, since FTA, NAFTA, and an evermore corporate friendly government, they`re not. That`s why we need a party that identifies with working people, unionized or not.

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    Dave Ruston



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