Queer until you probe the groundcover.
The CLF is an affiliate of the larger Adopt-A-Minefield organization. The AMA is, as cited on the CLF website: "an initiative of the Canadian Landmine Foundation in partnership with the United Nations Association of the United States of America (UNA-USA) and the Better World Fund (BWF)." Those affiliated with the CLF's affiliate are not largely the group of peaceniks one might expect. They include: spookworld notables from perennial conspiracy theorist favourite, the Council on Foreign Relations; State Department officials; ex-diplomats; Reaganites; and oily businessmen of all stripe.
A look at the UNA-USA's board reveals principles: President Ambassador William H. Luers, "active" CFR member, who cut his diplomatic teeth in communist Czechoslovakia, (shortly before it becoming the tipping point that brought down the USSR in Eastern Europe), and Venezuela. Luers served in South America during the opening days of Reagan and George H. W. Bush's reign of terror there, 1978-82. When not busy ridding the world of landmines, William spends his time championing other humanitarian efforts, such as those led by the Harriman Institute and Rockefeller Brothers Fund.
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Navigating Afghanistan's Propaganda Minefields
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Let's start the pressure... a no war campain is in order.
Now 6 men die in friendly fire and traffic accidents, 2 die from a land mine and 2 die in actual hostilities, and Canadians get cold feet? That would be the first time in our history we left a country that was down and out to the mercy of the bad guys. We've never started a fight, and we've never run away from a good fight, and we shouldn't start now.
Ask the soldiers if they want to be there, and give them direction on what to do while they are there. Don't make them turn and run away because the Canadian people are a little queasy about asking them to put their lives on the line. To them, it's worse than death.
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"I think it's important to always carry enough technology to restart civilization, should it be necessary." Mark Tilden
The Canadian People like their soldiers but in peace and deasaster missions, not in wars.
I have no love lost on Harper, but where has Harper advocated war, that you'd compare him to the likes of "Il Dulche"? people here scream not to be brainwashed by the media, and yet demonstrate the exact same signs of that brainwashing.
If you like your soldiers, ask them if they think what they are doing is right, before you embarass them. Again.
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"I think it's important to always carry enough technology to restart civilization, should it be necessary." Mark Tilden
Talking about brainwashed people... now they prefer to say debriefed, as in "the soldier was debriefed after his mission".
If I like our army members I would call them back home from that place ASAP... there are numerous places in the world that need help and releif else than playing a role of release missions for the USA and UK.
I guess all the women denied basic medical care under the Taliban don't need our help.
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"I think it's important to always carry enough technology to restart civilization, should it be necessary." Mark Tilden
It is not with Afghanistan that we should be at war in that case, it is with the USA... they have lied and deceived the American people and the rest of the world with their little power trip.
You really have a typical Bushevite view of the world. There has been much more people that died at the hands of the American army than that in the towers... but I guess it will not stop there because they are making damn sure that it will go on for the next 100 years.
I guess you will be voting for Harper in the next elections. They won't have to do much work to persuade you of the utility of that war... yeah WAR... not a Peace mission.
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"I think it's important to always carry enough technology to restart civilization, should it be necessary." Mark Tilden
I'm wondering if the actions of the Canadian military in Afghanistan, represent the will of Canadians, and if it is the role of the Canadian military to fulfill the will of Canadians, or is it the role of Canadians to be a cheering squad for the military? How much might we reasonably expect to participate in the decision of where, when, and how our troops are deployed?
It's not the place of the public to be a cheering squad, unless they support the military's actions. But if they aren't doing a good job in your eyes, don't blame the soldiers - blame Hillier. That's why he's CDS (Chief Defense Staff). He gives the orders, and the soldiers follow them unquestionably (unless the are illegal orders).
I expect that the soldiers do think what they are doing is right. I also think the people who are opposing the mission in Afghanistan on the grounds that it's an 'occupation' or 'opiate fueled' should get involved and get the facts before judging. Like Mr. 'Ray' above, who thinks because I support what our soldiers are doing, that somehow I want to bear Mr. Harpers baby.
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"I think it's important to always carry enough technology to restart civilization, should it be necessary." Mark Tilden
When you say that the Candian Army should be involved in missions supported by the majority of Canadians, I also agree but Harper has denied us this right... at least up to now. Of course he will have to be a debate in Ottawa about this but we know very well that the COns and the Liberals will renew this UN contract against the will of the majority of Canadians.
Our federal representatives are not listening to the majority, they are not listening to us. And since they give the orders to OUR army, well obviously OUR army is not doing what we want them to do.
I would never claim that Canadian soldiers were not doing a good job. Given orders, I have little doubt they would carry out those orders better than most. I don't blame soldiers, the tail doesn't wag the dog.
Hillier is trying to be more diplomatic with comments like those above in contrast to his earlier impersonation of SGT. Rock.
I also agree with Harper that there should be no debate, with respect to whether they should be there or not. They are there, the debate should be what they do while they are there. Debating whether they should be there will just turn into another post-Somalia affair, and bring us down another notch toward irrelevant in the eyes of the world.
I rather like Gen Hillier. He's a Newf, and earned his way up from starting as a grunt. It's his nature to speak his mind, unlike most of the desk soldiers that have been CDS in the past.
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"I think it's important to always carry enough technology to restart civilization, should it be necessary." Mark Tilden