Canada Pays Environmentally For U.S. Oil Thirst

They got their $400 from Ralph, didn't they? So what have they got to complain about?

Besides, how is Calgary supposed to enjoy all that wealth if Calgarians have to take time to think about the future.......

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RickW

I don't agree with your header. It should read "Canada pays enviromentaly for their Greed" Canada is selling the stuff and as any Albertan can tell you, enjoying the flux of the oil dollars. It really don't matter "who" you sell your soul to. It's an ideal where everyone is invited to make a quick buck and then go back home and not worry about the mess left behind. Not only politicians feed at the trough.

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Expect little from life and get more from it.

Exactly. The submitter does not understand that oil is fungible. Singling out the US shows a very obvious (and in this case unfair) bias. The whole world is consuming oil, so it's the whole world's problem, not the US's.<br />
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Here's a bit of a humourous explanation.<br />
<a href="http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/opinion_columnists/article/0,2777,DRMN_23972_4491622,00.html">http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/opinion_columnists/article/0,2777,DRMN_23972_4491622,00.html</a><br />
I remeber reading the cartoon and laughing as well.<br />
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I don't? I do remember that cartoon in the paper as well.

Now, do you not agree that everyone's greed for oil is polluting my province?


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"I think it's important to always carry enough technology to restart civilization, should it be necessary." Mark Tilden

A very good artical but I'm not convinced nuclear power is the answer either. It too is a fungible asset. We use power and will in any form. Cars are now more efficent then they ever had been and yet the fuel to run them is more expensive. No alternate fuel will be cheaper. Even if cars ran on garbage, garbage would be the fungible commodity. There is no such thing as a buyers market in this case.

I run a van as a private courier these days and planned on converting it to propane. Presently propane is half the price of gasoline. The conversion will be $4,700. I save nothing. Alternate fuels may be cheaper but it still will cost more to use it. A major player in the Natural Gas field is dropping production and diverting to oil. This Calgary company plans to make more money and that's where it ends. The players aren't going to give the consumer alternatives at a cheaper rate.

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Expect little from life and get more from it.

Sure do. The sooner Alberta builds several nuclear power plants, the better.

From the article:
Industry officials say they do not pollute the river, and instead reuse the water they take as often as 17 times. The leftover emerges as a black, foul liquid collected in tailing ponds. The ponds have grown; one dam is among the largest in the world. The mining companies fire propane cannons to scare away migrating birds from the toxic waters. [end quote]

Those toxic dams I find horrifying. And the thought of innocent wildlife trying to get from A to B so they can carry out their life's journey while cannons go off to keep them from what used to be a safe environment is downright criminal.

The pollution from the oil sand will find its way into BC waterways as well. The pollution does not stop at borders so I think Ralph Klein owes all of Canada big time.

Also from the article:
Industry officials say they are confident they will find a way to cap the ponds and solve the other problems. "I don't think there is a silver bullet that is the single answer," said Greg Stringham, vice president of the Calgary-based Canadian Association of Petroleum Producers. "But there are five or six technologies that are promising." [end quote]

There is a silver bullet but Mr. Stringham would never be the one to pull the trigger and fire it. The Association of Petroleum Producers will cling to a promise of new technology helping out. And that would be when? In 2 weeks, 2 years, 2 decades? What a lame, lame statement when so much is at stake. Why isn't this a crimal act? They are creating the same kinds of situations that our corporations do in developing nations that leave people without homes and a clean environment and turns them into "terrorists" and opponents of free trade. yet it seems that Canadians know the doctrine that when you're making all that money what's there to lose?

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"And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music." Friedrich Nietzsche

The first time I saw the Athabasca River, it was so clear and so beautiful,
I could've sat down and cried with the sheer joy of its beauty.

What kind of sacrilege is it, to turn a blue-green waterway into a shitty
brown sewer unfit for man nor beast?

If there actually is a god, I hope she balds and tortures the guys who do
this. Nothing is worth this.


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My pickled onions are infinitely superior to your pickled onions.
- Great Sage of the Rocky Mountains, circa 1889.
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This is what happens when the citizens of countries allow cliques, (corporations, governments and other gangs), to make all the development decisions in their countries. We let it happen and we are still letting it happen.

Fossil fuels are not the answer. Nuclear power is not the answer. Hydroelectric dams are not the answer.

Hydrogen is the fuel answer. When burned it produces heat and water and that is all. It can be produced by splitting water with electricity produced by windmills. Solar panels are a good source of energy in sunny climes. These are all regenerative energy sources.

Are there problems to be overcome, you bet, the overhaul of our economy along with the rest of the worlds economies is part of the answer. All of the problems can be overcome. The major problem stopping the development of this energy scenario is ignorance. When we pay attention we dispel ignorance.

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"Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth."
(Albert Einstein)

What kind of sacrilege is it, to turn a blue-green waterway into a shitty brown sewer unfit for man nor beast?<<

It's called "Money". They only way to stop it is by not allowing the money to flow. That's the only river they are concerned with. You want the tar sands to stop, then don't buy the oil.


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Expect little from life and get more from it.

Absafraggenloutely! I have a feeling though it won't mean anything toward the price of natural gas.

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"I think it's important to always carry enough technology to restart civilization, should it be necessary." Mark Tilden

Yes Milton but in Canada we are a cold country and the sources you condemned are the best things we now have.

Why not build a nuclear facility to prevent the oil companies from wasting natural gas to create the energy used to extract oil from the tar sands??? Create jobs building the great new version of the Canadians invention called CANDU--just make the oil companies pay higher royalties to pay for it.

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"True nations are united by blood and soil, language, literature, history, faith, tradition and memory". -

-Patrick J. Buchanan

I'd like to bring to everyone's attention that Canadians are paying environmentally to support mass immigration but I know nobody here cares let alone wants to discuss that. I have come to learn that if it can't be blamed on the Americans then its not worth talking about.

The oil Canada buys is actually mostly from Venezuela--at least in Ontario. The tar sands oil is mostly sent south and refined there or here and then shipped south.

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"True nations are united by blood and soil, language, literature, history, faith, tradition and memory". -

-Patrick J. Buchanan