Israeli Military Recruiting In Canada?

Posted on Friday, July 28 at 09:04 by Eleanor
"By this e-mail I would like to raise awareness, and ask you to help by sending complaint e-mail to: 1. CBC, for the bias coverage about Sar-El whose members were interviewed promoting their (illegal) activity. 2. OPP and RCMP for the reason that no appropriate action is being been taken against Sar-El currently, or in in the past. E-mail address: CBC contact: national@cbc.ca ." [Proofreader's note: this article was edited for spelling and typos on July 28, 2006]

Note: http://www.sar-el.org http://www.sarelcanada....

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  1. Fri Jul 28, 2006 4:16 pm
    "As you may know, to recruit people in Canada for a foreign army is a criminal offence."<br />
    <br />
    Well, no Elenaor, it may surprise you to learn it is not, nor has it ever been.<br />
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    It is illegal to recruit from within Canada, people to war on any *friendly state*. Lebanon may or may not fall into that category. Perhaps someone with more forgien affairs knowledge can bring us up to speed?<br />
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    I know, this is exactally what that Khadar puke can be charged under, for killing an American soldier.<br />
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    <a href="http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/F-28/240964.html">http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/F-28/240964.html</a><br />
    <br />
    Any Canadian can take his/her birth certificate and join the army of any friendly nation. I could join the Austraillian, German, IDF or US armies with no legal ramifications. And vice-versa.<p>---<br>"I think it's important to always carry enough technology to restart civilization, should it be necessary." Mark Tilden<br />

  2. Fri Jul 28, 2006 6:47 pm
    I found this interesting report which indicates that foreign military recruitment on Canadian soil is not legal. <br><br> <a href="http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0352,mondo2,49755,6.html">Uncle Sam Wants You, Eh? Our Military Tries to Recruit Canada's Inuit</a> <br><br> <i>"As a result of our interaction with the U.S. embassy, a letter was sent from the director, Joint Chiefs of Staff in Washington, to the vice chiefs of the U.S. military services, reminding them that their recruiters are to refrain from entering Canadian territory," Foreign Affairs official Reynald Doiron told The Vancouver Sun earlier this month. The prohibition on recruiting applies to U.S. activities in Canadian high schools and university job fairs as well as on native reserves. The U.S. embassy confirmed that it would stop active recruiting in such places in Canada. If Canadians want to join the U.S. military, they will have to cross the border to do so.</i>

  3. Fri Jul 28, 2006 6:59 pm
    "I found this interesting report which indicates that foreign military recruitment on Canadian soil is not legal. "

    Where does it say that? It says it is not *welcome*, big difference.

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    "I think it's important to always carry enough technology to restart civilization, should it be necessary." Mark Tilden

  4. Fri Jul 28, 2006 8:43 pm
    There's no treaty with the USA allowing its military to recruit on Canadian soil, therefore by default it is not an activity that has been made legal, therefore Canada has the legal right to legitimately kick out foreign military recruiters at will. In this case, the US ceded to the request to leave, and it could not defend its actions, therefore the Canadian government made the activity illegal by stating it was "not welcome" which is diplomatic speak for "Get the hell out of our country!". <br><br> On the flip-side, the Canadian government could have allowed the activity to persist, unless there is an existing law which forbids the practice, which may or may not exist, I don't know either way. What appears to be the case, is that there is no law or treaty that grants a foreign military the right to recruit while on Canadian soil. <br><br> Finally, it appears that there's no law preventing you or anyone from joining up with a foreign military, however should the Canadian government not like your choice of armies for any reason (or even for no reason), then you could end up in a gulag. <br><br> For example, the Japanese were "legally" sent to prison camps even without joining an enemy army. It happened before, and it can happen again, as the law is always highly pliable. Under the current system of law, it appears that the Harper government is considering to prosecute people as terrorists who join up with Hezbola, even if they have nothing to do with its military wing. <br><br> Here's an example of the propaganda and actions that attempt to formulate consent for such an action: <br><br> <a href="http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20021129/ottawa_hebollah_lawsuit_021129?s_name=&no_ads=">Ottawa faces lawsuit for not banning Hezbollah</a> <br><br> <i>The Jewish organization B'nai Brith Canada is suing the Canadian government for failing to crack down on the fundraising efforts of the militant group Hezbollah. <br><br> : <br><br> Canada currently bans the military wing of Hezbollah, but not the entire organization. The suit seeks to force Ottawa to ban Hezbollah outright in Canada. <br><br> : <br><br> B'nai Brith wants the courts to order the government to place Hezbollah on a list of "terrorist entities" so that the group's assets could be frozen. <br><br> </i> It should be noted to the reader that not all Jews agree with or support the B'nai Brith or every action undertaken by Israel, however such a thing is rearly ever mentioned. Please do not paint all Jews with the same brush given the interventionist behavior of the B'nai Brith. For example, visit <a href="http://www.nimn.org/About/menu/000011.php?section=What%20We%20Do">Not In My Name</a>.

  5. Sat Jul 29, 2006 10:24 pm
    Whether there's a technical law against it or not, I want Israeli recruitment here stopped - discouraged - made unwelcome - whatever.

    Israel has killed 9 Canadians recently, and is unapologetic and is not reducing its activities which put Canadians and others at risk. It has a long history of killing foreign nationals whenever it felt like it - from UN envoy Folke Benadotte in 1948, to the sailors of the USS Liberty in 1967, to Rachel Corrie and other peace activists in recent years, and many more. And its long history of war crimes against target populations continues in Lebanon.

    As for the Khadr kid, he wasn't recruited by an agency on Cdn soil. He was with his father, in his father's homeland, fighting in his father's cause. I don't think a 15-year-old can be asked to make an independent evaluation of his father's politics.

  6. Sat Jul 29, 2006 11:17 pm
    I agree, but all recruiting on Canadian soil should be made illegal. The activities of Israel fall well under the definition of "terrorist state", yet for some reason (which we all know about) it is NOT being declared as a terrorist state.

    The hypocrisy of the Canadian government is all over the map and is endorsed by all of the main political parties.

    The concept of a "terrorist" should either be abolished, or held firm with no exceptions.

    Finally, Canada should NOT be defending a state that is actively killing innocent Canadian citizens.

  7. Sun Jul 30, 2006 8:58 pm
    I have seen the "recruits" you mention, and while I hate to disillusion you,
    those altekackers are not recruits. They get to dress up in uniforms and walk
    around some of the major cities. They are not serving in the Israeli military,
    do not receive training, do not carry weapons, and are not subject to any of
    the sometimes discipline that the military there includes. It is true that
    someone in the army will give them a lecture from time to time, and they are
    probably given meals at some military base on occasion, but granma Thelma
    and Grandpa Haim are not lugging ammo in Lebanon....

    It's for contributors of money and old folks who want to feel they are part of
    Israel. It would be comparible to dressing up a bunch of Canadian tourists in
    US military uniforms and giving them a guided tour of the Pentagon, and then
    letting them go home.

  8. Tue Oct 02, 2007 11:14 pm
    Elanor,

    I am Canadian born and PROUDLY served 3 years in the Paratroops of the IDF, and lived in Israel for 8 years. Reading your rant, its clear that your issue is not with a foriegn country recruiting in Canada, but that its those damn Jews. As well, reading what you wrote, its clear that you have no clue whatsoever what Israel is about, what it faces and how it deals with it.You may be preaching to the converted here, but those of us who have lived there and fought there know better.

  9. Wed Oct 03, 2007 6:07 am
    The government has decreed that terrorists cannot do business in Canada, yet it merrily allows terrorist states such as Israel to do business here. The 'law' is so full of hypocrisies and injustice that no one should respect it anymore.

  10. Wed Oct 03, 2007 8:23 am
    "As well, reading what you wrote, its clear that you have no clue whatsoever what Israel is about, what it faces and how it deals with it.You may be preaching to the converted here, but those of us who have lived there and fought there know better."<br />
    OK, George, you have a platform from which to educate all exactly what Isreal is ALL about. By living there and fightthere your experience is limited to only that.<br />
    If you mean all Jews by your flipant "those damned Jews" remark then you have already stepped into falsehood, and with the weakest of bait. <br />
    The organisation you so "PROUDLY served 3 years in"<br />
    was spawned from Zionist Haganah terrorists and in the eyes of many the IDF is acts as Israel's terror troops towards the Palestinians.<br />
    If you were a true Torah Jew you would hang your head in shame. The state you are proud of came about by conspiracy.<br />
    <br />
    Before you begin to educate the readership you might want to bone up on information that in all likilihood you will deny <br />
    <a href="http://www.vivelecanada.ca/article.php/2007100109085749">http://www.vivelecanada.ca/article.php/2007100109085749</a><br />
    <p>---<br>"When I tell the truth, it is not for the sake of convincing those who do not know it, but for the sake of defending those that do."<br />
    <br />
    William Blake<br />
    <br />

  11. Wed Oct 03, 2007 6:58 pm
    <a href="http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20071001_israels_toy_soldiers/">http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20071001_israels_toy_soldiers/</a> <br />
    <br />
    Israel’s Toy Soldiers<br />
    One doesn’t have to look very far on the internet or do a search there to find exposé’s of Zionist Israel’s agenda.<br />
    I was brought up on a diet of sympathy for the Jewish people, the holocaust, the photos of the dead, the stories of soap made from their bodies, further stories od lampshades made of their skin—the works. ow in later years of my life I’ve found most of that to be propaganda and Jews were not the only ones to suffer atrocities. Ed Deak has pointed out to us that it is the governments of nation that go to war, government who owe their power to the peoples of those nations. In the article “American Genocide – American Nazis: From the Holocaust in Europe to the Holocaust in Rwanda. To be found on these pages under Before There Was A Hitler, There Were Nazis in America @ <br />
    <a href="http://www.vivelecanada.ca/article.php/2007100109085749">http://www.vivelecanada.ca/article.php/2007100109085749</a> <br />
    I have been manipulated by propaganda from childhood and would still be a victim of my own ignorance if it were no for some internal mechanism that guides me through the morass of deceit coming from those I was taught to (falsely) respect. I have presented elsewhere on these pages that I see us all out of balance and easily manipulated as the result. <br />
    I assume and correctly so, that Jews, also, are victims of the sane brand of propaganda as I and their burden is heavier than mine due to their believing themselves to be THEE chosen people of G*d.<br />
    <br />
    What a boast!<br />
    <br />
    The way the believers of that particular bit of propaganda behave towards others of the human race and particularly their brothers, sons of Ishmael is enough to cause all non Jews to be fearful.<br />
    <br />
    <p>---<br>"When I tell the truth, it is not for the sake of convincing those who do not know it, but for the sake of defending those that do."<br />
    <br />
    William Blake<br />
    <br />



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