Prepare For Long Afghan Stay: Powell Tells Canada Not To Set Timeline For Pulli

Canada to Powell:

Go to hell you imperialist SOB.

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"and the knowledge they fear is a weapon to be used against them"

"The Weapon" - Rush

"A dozen or so protesters" - after several months of advertising the anti-US brigade can only come up with 12 people to protest? In the biggest city in the nation? The line up for free wine for the homeless is longer at the church across the street from RTH every day at 5:30! Either most people don't believe your accusation that Powell is a war criminal or they just don't care.

"I don't think any of these guys get it. You cannot send a USAmerican to Canada to tell us what to do and not do and expect a positive response." - Powell was here for a discussion on US Canada releations. This had been planned for several months, long before the elections we just had. He wasn't here to tell us what to do, and Afghanistan was a small part of his speech and presentation. He was up here by invite as an expert (as was Frank McKenna) on CA/US relations. Leave it to the Star to zone in on a narrow focus to push their political aims.

Intention is everything, regardless of what it's dressed up as.

The US, in it's current political configuration is an imperial power.

Nothing they offer us is for our own good.

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"and the knowledge they fear is a weapon to be used against them"

"The Weapon" - Rush

canada will be in afghanistan only as long as we do not see body bags coming home.

when the body bags start to flow in regularly then canadians will see their mistake,much like the body bags that were housed in huge warehouse when viet nam was at its peak .

war is hell,especially when your kids are dieing for someone else' ideals.

OK Michael, how much do you know about the military, and what do you expect those few thousand foreign troops can achieve in a country without roads, where they can't get out of their armoured vehicles even in the cities?

The Canadian toops drove up a certain road to "pacify it" and then back to Kandahar to please their general in his brand new camouflage uniform, whisked away by a US helicopter when shots were fired in the distance. And our hot air merchant PM who never fired a gun in anger.

Now the troops are holed up back in Kandahar, making PR movies on the emancipation of Afg. women, while 10 km outside of town the little girls are being "circumcised". Which means the ritual cutting out of their inner labiae and clitoris, and then have to wear a sack with holes cut for their eyes, to please the Prophet's local reps. working at the intelligence level of our Conservative MPs

Meanwhile, the Taliban and the other warped religious nuts, are riding their horses and mules on mountain paths no foreign soldier dares to show his face on, ruling the thousands of inaccessible villages.

The only difference between them and our nutty ideologues here is that ours are driving around in limos and flying in private jets the Taliban can't afford, and doesn't need to rule.

I remember a TV newsclip from way back, when Soviet troops were occupying that country and they took some Western reporters on patrol in an armoured car. You could hear the bullets hitting the side of the vehicle and one in the patrol was blown up by a mine by the same people who're now doing it to our and other sucker troops, there on the orders of fully owned politicians.

Ed Deak, Big Lake, BC.

Hey Michael Scott?
Do you ever tire of giving head to the yanks?

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You assist an evil system most effectively by obeying its orders and decrees.
An evil system never deserves such allegiance.
Allegiance to it means partaking

Pacifying the canadian public is easy.Suv's,Wal-Mart,cellphones,shopping malls,non stop entertainment.
You may have also noticed that the reports that come across tv appear more entertaining than informative.

That's the best you got Dio?

So, where were you when the 12 protesters were outside of RTH? Or don't you have the convictions to back up your own ideals?

I know that Canadians are conducting foot patrols, not just patroling in armoured vehicles. My latest edition of Macleans provides pictures of one such patrol as well as a brief description of the operation. Unfortunately they don't have the article on their web site or I'd forward you the link.

I do agree that we need more troops there. I believe you and I have discussed this several times previously. All we need now is 4Canada to jump in and ask me when I'm joining up again. However, even with the limited resources they are being provided, they can do the job at hand... it will just take longer and be more dangerous. They pacified Kabul (though it took 4 years). They moved out of Kabul and into Kandahar to continue that operation. With such limited resources, they need to move slower than what they could do if we gave them say 10,000 soldiers. Without the security that the ISAF provides, the NGO's cannot operate. There is a reason that the NGO's and other aid organizations have abandoned many of their projects that are not centered in Kabul... and that is a lack of security.

I believe we both want the Afghan government to be able to stand on it's own. You, because you want them to throw the American's out and to nationalize their oil pipeline... and me because I want an ally that will provide stability and prosperity to it's people. Maybe we can get both. But we will get neither unless we stay and do the job at hand.

I didn't author this one, only forwarding it without comment.

Ed Deak


Friday, March 17, 2006

NDP calls for debate on Afghanistan

Jack Layton and NDP Defence Critic Dawn Black are turning up the heat on the Harper minority government. Together, with Parliament set to open April 3, they’re calling for an urgent debate on Canada’s military role in Afghanistan.

Throughout the recent election campaign, Stephen Harper promised to listen to parliament. But now he insists a debate would be “dangerous” and disrespectful to our troops. However, the Conservatives were more than willing to participate in a parliamentary debate last November when our troops were stationed in Afghanistan. Since then, a lot has changed and Canadians want more information.

Michael Scott says: "All we need now is 4Canada to jump in and ask me when I'm joining up again."

I will never be able to embrace anyone that sits at home advising that other people be sent to war. So no, not again, I am not going to ask you when you are leaving, because that would mean I had become you.

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"And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music." Friedrich Nietzsche