Big Pharma's Lunatic FDA Says Cherries Are Now DRUGS

This is part of the Codex racket, already going wild in Europe, to prevent people from using alternative medications and put everything and everybody under the control of big pharma.

There've been attempts, here in BC anyway, even years ago, to virtually close down all healthfood stores and the only reason they failed was the large and powerful Chinese population who demand their own herbal health products. Which we're also using.

We've been on homeopathics for years, with excellent results, our medicare costs are nil, working 7 days a week at 80, but our practitioner is telling us that our remedies will be cut back and banned. This is democracy ?

E.g. There was a young woman shown on BCTV some weeks ago, who could hardly walk because of extreme pain in her heels, but was told that she'll have to wait 3 years to see a specialist, unless she paid cash.

What she most likely had were "spurs", outgrowths on the bone that can be eliminated in a few days by drinking a bit of applecider vinegar in a half a glass of warm water for mornings. Happened to me several times and gone. So, now will applecider vinegar also be banned ?

I've known my wife for 62 years and we've been, very happily, married for 56. In all these years I've never known
a single prescription medication tha hadn't caused violent ractions, almost killing her a couple of occasions.

A reported 9,000 are killed in Canada by medications every year, the real figure probably double, or more, and although I've never heard anybody being killed by homeopathics and healthfoods, the government is trying to abolish them and put everybody into the hands of the pharma gang?

Like I asked before, is this democracy and the freedom of personal decision making ?

Ed Deak.

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<blockquote> but our practitioner is telling us that our remedies will be cut back and banned. </blockquote> It is quite obviously "for our own good", as we cannot be trusted to make anything but uninformed decisions regarding our own health and well-beiing. <p>And then, out of the other side of their collective mouth, they say we must take more responsibility for our own lives.</p> Hmmmm..........<p>---<br>"When you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change." <br />
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Over the years I've heard rumours about banning garlic etc. Now, how about prunes ? If there was a medicinal fruit it must be prunes, so they should also be banned.

An apple a day keeps the doctor away, which means less business for big pharma, so apples should also be controlled and banned.

As a Hungarian born, my favourite has always been poppy seeds in various foods, can't have enough of it, but the super expensive seeds we've been able to buy lately, were always rancid, one of the problems with long stored poppy seeds, and ended up in the chicken foods.

So, this year we'll try to grow our own, and were wondering if we're going to be raided ? I can just imagine RCMP helicopters and squad cars loaded with helmeted and flak jacketed cops hitting us one night and going to jail for my poppy seed rolls.

Do they have computers in jails ? Oh, well, I can always teach woodwork and art to spend the years of incarceration.

Ed Deak.

"my favourite has always been poppy seeds in various foods, can't have enough of it, but the super expensive seeds we've been able to buy lately, were always rancid,"

You too? My Kingdom for some Poppyseed Strudel!! The only luck I've had was from organic food stores, or the smaller pouches at Superstore.

"I can just imagine RCMP helicopters and squad cars loaded with helmeted and flak jacketed cops hitting us one night and going to jail for my poppy seed rolls."

LOL! Once they find out what you did in the Army, it'll be tanks and armoured personelle carriers.

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I may be in the minority here, but when anyone starts posting health claims on their products REGARDLESS of how accurate those claims are, they're painting a big bright red target on themselves and the government and big pharma are going to see it.

And when they do, they will take drastic action.

This is a big government - big business co-operative response, logic and facts have nothing to do with it.

Protecting profits, however, has EVERYTHING to do with it.

Your health, or that of anyone else, is generally at best a tertiary concern; it is a secondary one only if you are extremely lucky.

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"and the knowledge they fear is a weapon to be used against them"

"The Weapon" - Rush

"can't have enough of it"

Is that the morphine and codeine content that's talking, sort of like caffeine and coffee?

Our insane out-of-control government bans all sorts of things for "our safety" so that the criminals they associate with may profit from it. The government is a hypocrisy, as it helps along the destruction of our environment (is that for our protection too?), and it restricts our liberty in the name of the greater good "in an open and democratic society" - which reads like something straight out of a communist instruction manual.

We the people should ban corrupt politicians for our safety. We're in the millions, and there's only a few of these slippery politicians to worry about, so it should be easy.

"posting health claims on their products"

My understanding is that the claims were about red cherries, which is not a product, as it is a fruit produced by a naturally occurring life form.

BTW, I have some amazing clean air to sell you. breathe in this special air and you'll be free of bad health. Works best on people who live or work in a poor quality air environment.

Ooops, will they ban clean air now?

Before you decide to go Indy on me, please review the following link, a link embedded in the same Rense article that this thread is based on.<br />
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<a href="http://www.cfsan.fda.gov/~dms/chrylist.html">http://www.cfsan.fda.gov/~dms/chrylist.html</a><br />
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Then tell me, where with the exceptions of "dried cherries" and "dried tart cherries" and "dried pitted cherries" a grand total of 4 if my count is correct, that anything even remotely similar to fresh cherries picked from a tree are even mentioned in that list.<br />
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As soon as you modify anything by dehydration and pitting, it should be considered as being processed and not a natural food.<br />
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Natural cherries, in my universe at least, come from trees and are not dried and pitted, or modified in any way.<br />
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What constitutes fresh cherries in your world?<p>---<br>"and the knowledge they fear is a weapon to be used against them"<br />
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"The Weapon" - Rush

The grand total of 4 comes from the amount of times they are mentioned in the list, and not from the product described.


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"and the knowledge they fear is a weapon to be used against them"

"The Weapon" - Rush

"What constitutes fresh cherries in your world?"
As soon as you modify anything by dehydration and pitting, it should be considered as being processed and not a natural food."

Why? What would be the difference if we left the cherries on the tree until they were dehydrated, then ate them? The have been through no 'processing' ie: treatment from chemicals, if they are dehydrated, they are simply cut in half, pitted and exposed to a warm dry environment for a time.

Is that any different than for tomatoes, raisins or apples?


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I gave a set of differences between fresh cherries picked from a tree, and cherries modified by human means.

What you describe is possible, but might I suggest you look at the list provided by following the link posted before taking me to task?

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"and the knowledge they fear is a weapon to be used against them"

"The Weapon" - Rush

Please note, definition #2, esp "treatment of a product". Any series of operations, regardless of number, can be said to constitute a process. Therefore no operations = unprocessed = natural = FDA and Big Pharma resistant

From dictionary.com

proc·ess 1
Pronunciation Key
n. pl. proc·ess·es

1. A series of actions, changes, or functions bringing about a result: the process of digestion; the process of obtaining a driver's license.

2. A series of operations performed in the making or treatment of a product: a manufacturing process; leather dyed during the tanning process.

3. Progress; passage: the process of time; events now in process.

4. Law The entire course of a judicial proceeding.

5. Law
1. A summons or writ ordering a defendant to appear in court.
2. The total quantity of summonses or writs issued in a particular proceeding.
3. A running software program or other computing operation.
4. A part of a running software program or other computing operation that does a single task.

6. Biology An outgrowth of tissue; a projecting part: a bony process.

7. Any of various photomechanical or photoengraving methods.

8. Computer Science
1. A running software program or other computing operation.
2. A part of a running software program or other computing operation that does a single task.





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"and the knowledge they fear is a weapon to be used against them"

"The Weapon" - Rush

I see your point, but how far do you want to take it?

Is picking the fruit from the tree considered to be modifying the fruit? How about planting the tree? What about exposing the fruit to an environment unlike where the fruit was grown? What about selective breeding of the trees to produce desirable qualities?

Eating the fruit modifies it too, but it is hard to imagine anyone but insane government/corporate officials arguing that eating is an unnatural process.

In any case, I really do see your point, and it does make sense to a degree, since any modification of the fruit may introduce health issues that are not due to natural processes. For example, how was the fruit dried? Was it left in the sun and open air, or was it dried in a vacuum chamber, or what? Unless someone looks at the process, how can anyone know that it is safe?