Gov't Moves To Access Personal Info With Minimal Public Input

Posted on Thursday, September 13 at 12:54 by Frank_Frink
Mmmnnnn, OK. Which government agencies are we talking about? Oh, that would be these ones.

Public Safety Canada and Industry Canada have begun a consultation on how law enforcement and national securitiy agencies can gain lawful access to customers' information. The information would include names, addresses, land and cellphone numbers, as well as additional mobile phone identification, such as a device serial number and a subscriber identity module (SIM) card number.

The consultation also seeks input on access to e-mail addresses and IP addresses. An IP address is a number that can be used to identify a computer's location.

The Wetsuit Dino Rider and Steve's new Quebec best boy (Maxime Bernier). Yeah, I really, and I mean triple please really with whipped cream and a strawberry on top, trust these two.

Because, of course, pesky things like privacy rights and the Charter of Rights are just so inconvenient.

It says enforcement agencies may need the information for matters other than probes, such as informing next-of-kin of emergency situations, or because they are at the early stages of an investigation.

There, aren't you feeling better already?

Not so fast.

Michael Geist, chair of internet and e-commerce law at the University of Ottawa, said the process is not being conducted publicly as two previous consultations have been, in 2002 and in 2005.

The consultation has not been published in the Canada Gazette, where such documents are normally publicized, or on the agencies' websites.

Interested parties have been given until Sept. 27 to submit their comments, which is a short consultation time, Geist said. Several organizations and individuals contacted by CBCNews.ca only received their documents this week.

(Remember Luongo only took his eye off that puck for a blink)

Worse yet.

More pointedly, a number of parties that took part in the previous consultations, including privacy and civil liberty advocates — and even some telecommunication service providers — have not been made aware of the discussion, he said.

"It's really disturbing particularly in light of the fact that they've had two prior consultations on lawful access in the past, so it's not as if they don't know the parties that are engaged on this issue," Geist said.

Officials with the Canadian Civil Liberties Association were not aware of the consultation.

Holy f****ng shit! I don't think for a moment that any of that is accidental or has anything to do with parliament's recess.

Geist said the other problem with the consultation is that it appears as if the government agencies have already made up their minds on how to proceed and are simply conducting it for appearances' sake.

"The fear is that law enforcement knows what it would like to do — it would like to be able to obtain this information without court oversight — and so it has pulled together this consultation in the hope that they can use that to say they have consulted, and here are the safeguards that the consultation thought was appropriate."

So, my American friends, still thinking of Canada as a 'sane' alternative? Hmmm.. so Gonzales resigns down there and it's really because he's taken a job up here - 'free' health care ya' know? Well, no. Sure seems that way.

Now, you would think that Canada's Gnu Goobermints would already be aware that part of the USA P.A.T.R.I.O.T. Act dealing with these sorts of privacy abuses was recently overturned by a US federal judge?

Michael Geist wrote on the issue in his blog yesterday.

this is an important issue and I believe that the government should hear from all interested stakeholders, not a hand-picked, secret group. In the consultation, Public Safety claims that "law enforcement agencies have been experiencing difficulties in consistently obtaining basic CNA information from telecommunications service providers. In the absence of explicit legislation, a variety of practices exists among TSPs with respect to the release of basic customer information, e.g. name, address, telephone number, or their Internet equivalents." After identifying what it considers CNA data (including cell phone identifiers, email addresses, and IP addresses), the departments propose a series of safeguards including limits on who would have access to the information, limited uses of the information, and internal audits on the use of these powers.

And as with many things enacted and attempted by the Harper Preservatives (hello, unsubstantiated tax leakage and electoral fraud by veiled women) this has a similar stench.

the claim that law enforcement has faced "difficulties" in obtaining CNA data remains completely unsubstantiated (to the extent that some ISPs ask for a court order, this reflects an appropriate balance that Parliament established when it enacted PIPEDA).

PIPEDA? That's Canada's Privacy Legislation.

We've done this before, we can do it again. Time to make some noise.

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  1. Thu Sep 13, 2007 9:24 pm
    Let's see...illegal spying on its citizens, human rights violations, trashing the
    environment, the use of secrecy to destroy the Democratic process, voting
    against Aboriginal Rights, questionable police acitivity, questionable military
    activity...where does it end?

    To quote Mr. Harper when asked about the protesters at Montebello, "it's
    sad".
    Yes Mr. Prime Minister, it is sad to see how far Canada has fallen from its
    once heavily respected international position of being a fair broker in an ever
    maddening world. Interesting to see how a small percentage of individuals
    can
    drag an entire country and its once proud reputatiion through the mud.

    Quite sad.

  2. Fri Sep 14, 2007 12:17 am
    My None valued opinion (read 2cents worth)
    Thought Police!
    Control!

    I choose Incommunicado,
    Under Arrest by My Own Athority
    It's like a code of honour of how I strive tolive with myself and my fellows.

    It has been said by means of identification: "You are judged by how you presesnt yourself"


    I see it as 'I am
    judged by what little I am pronounced as'

    You're ah, You're ah!

    ( This may be chanted as a mantra, with a beat, now add some Rhythm, Play with the bea.

    The tuff we tell ourselve, our self talk oftem becomes out individual stawman unless of course we go multiple
    The Three faces of Eve, and all that

    And now the state has our number. our trackable trace able number so don't be pissin off "Big Brother".


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    "When I tell the truth, it is not for the sake of convincing those who do not know it, but for the sake of defending those that do."

    William Blake

  3. Fri Sep 14, 2007 1:02 am
    and a belated
    BRAVO
    VERY Original
    and creative

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    "When I tell the truth, it is not for the sake of convincing those who do not know it, but for the sake of defending those that do."

    William Blake

  4. Fri Sep 14, 2007 3:13 am
    Who said Hitler was dead...? he lives on in the skin of Stephen Harper.

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    "When the government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny." - Thomas Jefferson

  5. by Rural
    Fri Sep 14, 2007 1:04 pm
    The consultation has not been published in the Canada Gazette, where such documents are normally publicized, or on the agencies' websites.<br />
    Mélisa Leclerc, a spokeswoman for Public Safety Minister Stockwell Day, said the government was not trying to keep the consultation secret and would post the document on the internet on Thursday.<br />
    <br />
    <br />
    <a href="http://publicsafety.gc.ca/prg/ns/cna-en.asp">http://publicsafety.gc.ca/prg/ns/cna-en.asp</a><br />
    <p>---<br>When you are up to your ass in alligators it is difficult to remember that the initial objective was to drain the swamp

  6. Fri Sep 14, 2007 5:41 pm
    "And as with many things enacted and attempted by the Harper Preservatives"

    Keep in mind that the Liberals attempted this very same thing twice before and failed. This is the third attempt, and if it fails again, I can guarantee whatever next "new" government we end up with will try it again, and again, and again until one of the "new" governments finally succeed. This fight will be a never ending one until we kick out all the "new" governments that we've been stuck with over the last century.

  7. Fri Sep 14, 2007 6:01 pm
    The website has an Orwellian speak title of <strong>Keeping Canadians Safe</strong>. <br><br> I love this part: <br><br> "The principles and powers of <strong>lawful access</strong> must be exercised in a manner consistent with the rights and freedoms <strong>guaranteed in the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms</strong> and while adapting to the rapid pace of technological change." <br><br> More Orwellian speak: <br><br> <strong>Lawful Access</strong> means making illegal spying without a search warrant appear to be perfectly legal. <br><br> <strong>guaranteed</strong> in the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms means stepping all over the Charter, because it clearly states in clause 1 that none of our rights and freedoms are guaranteed. Take note, that any right and/or freedom may be denied, which means it is not guaranteed. Our rights and freedoms are considered to be an assigned privilege and little else. <br><br> <i>1. The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms guarantees the rights and freedoms set out in it <strong>subject only to such reasonable limits prescribed by law as can be demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society</strong>.</i> <br><br> To trample over any "guaranteed" right and/or freedom, such as making illegal spying legal, all that is required is the consent of a majority of appointed and well paid Judges sitting in the Supreme court. <br><br> The Charter is a fraud, otherwise this "lawful access" nonsense (and other illegal activity) would not be legally possible at all. <br><br> If this latest attempt fails, there's nothing to stop them from trying again, and as many times as is needed until they get the right mixture of Judges to pass it through. After that, the reverse sits in, where We the People cannot have the law repealed as we're not given the opportunity to try and try again until we succeed, and we do not have forced taxation to pay the legal bills.

  8. Fri Sep 14, 2007 6:30 pm
    Damned nice setup, ain't it?
    kinda makes one long for membership in their club, eh?

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    "When I tell the truth, it is not for the sake of convincing those who do not know it, but for the sake of defending those that do."

    William Blake

  9. Sat Sep 15, 2007 6:07 am
    "kinda makes one long for membership in their club, eh?"

    Sorry, my soul is not for sale!

  10. Sat Sep 15, 2007 7:16 am
    Mine either!

    but then we, if you'll allow that connection, are in the minority

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    "When I tell the truth, it is not for the sake of convincing those who do not know it, but for the sake of defending those that do."

    William Blake



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