Just When Can We Trust U.S.?

Posted on Friday, January 26 at 10:48 by 4Canada
If Canada can't trust American judgment in this case, how can it co-operate in others? If U.S. intelligence is as unreliable as Day suggests, why is he moving ahead full-bore to further integrate Canadian and American security systems in areas such as no-fly lists? Day says he's seen the still-classified U.S. file on Arar, but that the information in it is unconvincing – that it does not alter the Canadian government's view, based on an exhaustive public inquiry, that Arar is absolutely innocent of anything even remotely resembling terrorism. Yet the federal government seemingly does accept as gospel U.S. intelligence in other areas. For instance, Ottawa is trying to deport Algerian Mohamed Harkat as a security threat, in large part because of information the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency claims it received from an Al Qaeda suspect it's been interrogating in one of its secret prisons. Even putting aside the probability that this information was obtained under duress (which, as Harkat's lawyer Paul Copeland says, does cast doubt on its reliability) what if – as in the case of Arar – it's just plain wrong-headed? Indeed, it is sobering to remember that if Arar had not been fully investigated – and vindicated – by a judicial inquiry, the Canadian government almost certainly would have accepted unquestioningly the U.S. claim that he remains a dangerous terror suspect. That's because we've been taking our cues on these matters from the Americans. After the attacks on New York and Washington in 2001, Ottawa moved quickly to integrate its security and intelligence apparatus more closely with that of the U.S. In practical terms, as Justice Dennis O'Connor's inquiry into Arar discovered, that meant funnelling more information to the Americans and allowing U.S. agents to sit in on all Canadian security meetings. Indeed, O'Connor concluded that it was probably the RCMP's promiscuous sharing of rumour, innuendo and misinformation that persuaded the Americans to arrest Arar in 2002 in New York, and ship him to Syria for torture Under the new regime of co-operation, Canada also allowed the Federal Bureau of Investigation and other U.S. agencies to send more operatives into Canada. http://www.thestar.com/article/174737

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  1. Fri Jan 26, 2007 11:23 pm
    "Just when can we trust Canada". As Thomas Walkom stated, we trust the Americans on some subjects but not on others. It is Canada who dosen't have a firm grasp. Our government will say's one thing and then contradicts itself. They blew it on Arar but still willing to accept the US opinion on other suspects. Canada put Arar in American hands. The American must wonder at what level can they accept Canadian intelligence. What else will Canadians be telling Americans, only to change the story at a later date?

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  2. by Deacon
    Sun Jan 28, 2007 9:11 am
    I don't know if we CAN trust the US government.

    This next part is for Ed Deak.

    Two days ago as I was driving up Ospika @ approx 5 pm in PG, I happened to look up and saw a plane do a reasonably sharp 30 degree turn over Prince George. The plane was about 7 to 10,000 feet up and from I could see it was a KC-135.

    The initial course looked to be North, but after the turn it was North by North West.

    When I saw 4 contrails I thought at first it was a B-52, but the fuselage was too thick and too short.

    Anyway, I was wondering if you see these flying over where you live on a regular basis?

    Thanks


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  3. by RPW
    Sun Jan 28, 2007 4:30 pm
    <blockquote> I don't know if we CAN trust the US government. </blockquote> I don't think we should confine our mistrust of government to just the US govt. Let's spread this largesse to ALL governments...........none of them work in our interests. <p>Kennedy's <i><u>"...ask not what your country can do for you - ask what you can do for your country"</u></i> has, all to often been taken to mean what sacrifices a government can demand of it's citizens.</p><p>---<br>"When you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change." <br />
    -Max Planck<br />
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