Lost In Translation

Good article
too bad it is not on the feature page

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The world is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing.... : Albert Einstein

I used to know this person who said, 'sorry' with a sing song tone everytime they said something rude, inappropriate or did something offensive, they weren't about to change their behaviour they simply used the word 'sorry' as a follow up to continue doing what they were doing.

Today we have the popular term 'misquote, or misspoke' to attempt to give absolution for whatever they wish to say irresponsibly, or do without conscience. Oops, 'did I say that?' hum I call 'misquote' which somehow is supposed to unsay, undo and make right in everybody's mind that which is not right!

Oops! Our info on WMD must have been a misquote, Sorry! and after the absolution phrase everyone else is suppose to say, 'Oh, that's ok'....b.s. all the way, cause a word is not an eraser...you can't undo a bomb, or undo a death...it's final and no word can change it...better for people to stop giving absolution and hold these people accountable for the damage their words do!

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If I stand for my country today...will my country be here to stand for me tomorrow?

I knew from the start that the claim of him saying "wipe off the map" was a purposeful mis-translation. The phrase "wipe of the map" is a metaphore and metaphores hardly ever translate directly from one language to another. If you translated the phrase literally to farsi it would most likely end up describing the process of holding a paper map and using a rag to try and wipe the image of Isreal off of it. No doubt Farsi has its own version of the sentiment, but it wouldn't have a literal translation identical to our "wipe off the map".

<blockquote>too bad it is not on the feature page</blockquote> <br><br> This story should be getting same major exposure that the "misquoted" story got, but it won't because it does not serve the same purpose as the original. <br><br> Just before the 17 Al-Qaida inspired home grown Canadian-born terrorists got arrested, 2 terrorists were arrested in London by an army of 250 police officers (some wearing chem suits) backed up by at least 250 reporters manning the supply line. MAJOR HEADLINES. <br><br> Did you know that all 2 men were later released without charges? Did you know that one of the innocent men was shot and is now sueing the police? <br><br> Headlines are a one-way party. <br><br> I'm waiting for the 17 to be released without charge and without headlines.

They will get front page.

Iran is not part of Vive's mission, therefore it is not front page.

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"I think it's important to always carry enough technology to restart civilization, should it be necessary." Mark Tilden

I would have expected trith and integrity was though

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The world is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing.... : Albert Einstein

It is, that's why the story got published here.<br />
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<a href="http://www.vivelecanada.ca/multifaq/index.php?topic=15&qt_id=94&getlevel=019">http://www.vivelecanada.ca/multifaq/index.php?topic=15&qt_id=94&getlevel=019</a><br />
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That's why it didn't get front page.<p>---<br>"I think it's important to always carry enough technology to restart civilization, should it be necessary." Mark Tilden<br />

k

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The world is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing.... : Albert Einstein

<blockquote>Iran is not part of Vive's mission, therefore it is not front page.</blockquote> <br><br> I know what Vive's mission is, and I understand that Canadian issues take the front seat. However it is very telling that our own Canadian media printed the "misquote" all over the place, but has failed to print a retraction. The "misquote" story is just as much of a Canadian story as any. We have to understand that our media is often highly biased, deceptive, manipulative and willing to print lies to manufacture consent. <br><br> This from our own CBC News, which ought to know better, ought to have the resources to get to the truth, and ought to have the sensitivity to report the truth on these matters considering that Canada is supposed to be a multicultural society. <br><br> <a href="http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/iran/ahmadinejad.html">Mahmoud Ahmadinejad: Iran's populist new president</a> <br><br> <i>The Iranian president also seems intent on provoking international outrage. In October 2005, he said Israel should be "wiped off the map." A couple of months later, he called the Holocaust a "myth." A moderate, he is not. </i> <br><br> Did anyone notice the "Holocaust myth claim" propagagated by our own CBC? <br><br> <a href="http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article12790.htm">Does Iran's President Want Israel Wiped Off The Map - Does He Deny The Holocaust?</a> <br><br> <i>The Iranian press agency IRNA renders Ahmadinejad on 2005-12-14 as follows: "'If the Europeans are telling the truth in their claim that they have killed six million Jews in the Holocaust during the World War II - which seems they are right in their claim because they insist on it and arrest and imprison those who oppose it, why the Palestinian nation should pay for the crime. Why have they come to the very heart of the Islamic world and are committing crimes against the dear Palestine using their bombs, rockets, missiles and sanctions.' 'If you have committed the crimes so give a piece of your land somewhere in Europe or America and Canada or Alaska to them to set up their own state there.' Ahmadinejad said some have created a myth on holocaust and hold it even higher than the very belief in religion and prophets The president further said, 'If your civilization consists of aggression, displacing the oppressed nations, suppressing justice-seeking voices and spreading injustice and poverty for the majority of people on the earth, then we say it out loud that we despise your hollow civilization.'" <br><br> There again we find the quotation already rendered by n24: "In the name of the Holocaust they created a myth." We can see that this is completely different from what is published by e.g. the DPA - the massacre against the Jews is a fairy-tale. What Ahmadinejad does is not denying the Holocaust. No! It is dealing out criticism against the mendacity of the imperialistic powers who use the Holocaust to muzzle critical voices and to achieve advantages concerning the legitimization of a planned war. This is criticism against the exploitation of the Holocaust.</i>

Thank you, rearguard, for bringing Fikentscher/Neumann/Appleby's article to the fore about the falsified translations. I've known about this since April. That Ahmadinejad's real speech was not published in the MSM (Main Stream Media) but rather the grossly falsified version 9and it was blown up and quoted by politicians as if it were gospel truth) is expected because most media are influenced/controlled/funded by Zionists these days. (Hurrah for cyberspace).

Ahmadinejad wanted change in the government of Israel. Well, didn't the Likud party lose the election recently?

Do you know what the Canadian governments reaction to the falsified quotes were? I don't have the time to research this one today, so if anyone else has the time for it, please post. Thanks!

Assuming the Canadian government reacted as if the quotes were real (which I suspect is the case) - then where's the retraction and apology? If there was no reaction, or the reaction was cautious, then fine - nothing for me to say other than our Canadian media has failed us yet again.