Canadians Think They Are Boy Scouts - U.S. Congressman Thinks Otherwise

Actually I always thought it was the Americans who perceived themselves as "boy scouts".

"Canadians are at least a generation behind in understanding the nature and scope" of the terrorist threat."

As opposed to Bush and company who are on the bleeding edge of not only inciting "terrorists" to action globally, but also for funding, training, and proving material support.

Sadly, I suspect Harper will try to make up the slack in a hurry.

As for their desire for secure borders, they'll no doubt do as these other walls managed:

Hadrian's Wall
The Great Wall of China
The Maginot Line
The Siegfried Line
The Berlin Wall

All glorious failures at either keeping peoples in, or keeping them out.

Some types seem doomed to repeat history.



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"and the knowledge they fear is a weapon to be used against them"

"The Weapon" - Rush

Actually walls work pretty well at times, but this congressman is full of it. Yes our immigration policy is stupid but America just voted to give illegal Mexicans amnesty so what the hell does this moron think gives America the upper hand on the immigration debate?

America used to be more of a melting pot but both Canada and America are salad bowls in practice. Canada used to be a melting pot like pre 1960s America but then we told immigrants we were paying them to come to our country and take it. Simple as that.

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"True nations are united by blood and soil, language, literature, history, faith, tradition and memory". -

-Patrick J. Buchanan

"Actually walls work pretty well at times"

I agree. I find they make usually excellent partitions between rooms and are cool places to hang artwork.



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"and the knowledge they fear is a weapon to be used against them"

"The Weapon" - Rush

You forgot to incude the Great Rift Valley in Africa, a virtual ninth wonder of the world, so great was it's scope. Because of the engineering required to construction such a defensive "ditch", it has been passed off as a natural phenomena, and unfortunately, the builders cannot be asked. So successful was it's defensive intent, the builders succombed to interbreeding......

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RickW

And the illegal wall currently being built, creating Palestinian enclaves.

How about the homegrown terrorists of the USA, terrorizing the whole world with the imaginary energy of freshly created capital, and flying their B52 training missions over our heads here in Central BC to enforce it ?

Or a deep, impartial and true expert inquest into the events of 9/11?

Like Einstein allegedly said: "Deine eigene Scheise stinkt nicht!"

Ed Deak.

I really enjoyed the learned Mr. Hostettler's refrences to "South Toronto", a "location, as I understand is the type of enclave that allows for the radical type of discussion to go on".

South Toronto? Really? What is that...Dundas down to Front street or something? I've lived here my whole life, and in 33 years I've never once heard anyone every refer to a "South Toronto".

I've heard reference to "South Toronto." We were driving around Toronto lost one day and I asked the other Winnipegger in the car where we were going. "South Toronto" he said. He didn't know what he was talking about either.

Maybe if the US shuts down the border it will shock our politicians out of their infatuation with all things American.

"I do believe we in the United States have a much more clear focus on the problem of terrorism and have moved beyond denial that our own citizens are capable of terrorism. That doesn't seem to be the case north of the border."

The clear focus this “gentlemen” must be referring to is the US government’s ongoing 20 plus year relationship with al-Qaeda through Pakistan’s ISI secret service as amply documented by Michel Chossudovsky, Michel Ruppert and many others including the Republicans during Clinton’s administration. This relationship is no doubt still pretty cozy. Although I don’t believe American’s have a clear focus at all concerning the culprits responsible for 9-11.

Just another politician talking out his anus before and election.

Mike
Winnipeg

>>A U.S. congressman who says Canada's in denial about terrorism is applauding as "sound advice" the idea of shutting out immigrants and refugees until the country fixes its security risks.<<

I am in favour of arresting all persons who cross our borders with weapons on themselves or in their vehicles and sending them straight jail without trial which continues to be several thousand from the US every year but then again that would violate their constitutional rights to bare arms.

Oh yah, sorry for amount I thought US law applied in Canada?

It should read;

>>U.S. congressman in denial about who sowed the seeds of the terrorism the world knows today all for liberty, justice and the American way<<



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Perception is two thirds of what we perceive reality to be.

Difficult decisions are a privilege of rank.

No doubt these people from south of the border will be sticking their noses further and further into Canadian politics, exploiting the new found "warm relationship". Surely it's up to Stock Day and our ambassador in Washington to stand up to them right now in no uncertain terms.<br />
Incidentally, talking about security reminds me that the Bilderberg group is meeting in Kanata west of Ottawa this weekend June 9th to 11th. I tried to go online and book a room, surprise! surprise! there are no rooms available until 12th June. Apparently the "gang" always books the whole hotel where they meet. Only attendee names I've heard mentioned are Kissinger, Perle and Putaki.<br />
If you want to take a look at the swank hotel go to:<br />
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<a href="http://www.brookstreethotel.com/">http://www.brookstreethotel.com/</a><br />
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Frank<br />

This sums up American "thought" processes quite nicely I think:<br />
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<a href="http://www.buzzflash.com/farrell/04/06/far04021.html">http://www.buzzflash.com/farrell/04/06/far04021.html</a><br />
"In the early 1950s, Madison's Capital Times editor John Patrick Hunter took to the streets with a petition, (which was actually the Declaration of Independence, along with portions of the Bill of Rights) and tried to get people to sign it. Only one in 112 did. The rest found it too subversive."<br />
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"In May, 1956, Senator A.V. Watkins (R-Utah) "was almost bowled over" when, during Senate Judiciary Committee hearings on a new sedition law, an attorney for Americans for Democratic Action cited one of Thomas Jefferson’s more colorful quotes: "I hold that a little rebellion, now and then, is a good thing." Watkins responded, "If Mr. Jefferson were here and advocated such a thing, I would move that he be prosecuted." <br />
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"After some California state employees refused to allow statements from the Bill of Rights to be posted because they were too controversial, Chief Justice Earl Warren admitted: "It is straws in the wind like this which cause some thoughtful people to ask the question whether ratification of the Bill of Rights could be obtained today if we were faced squarely with the issue." <br />
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"Years ago, historian Charles S. Beard noted that, "You need only reflect that one of the best ways to get yourself a reputation as a dangerous citizen these days is to go about repeating the very phrases which our founding fathers used in the struggle for independence." <br />
<p>---<br>RickW

It's funny you mention weapons with this Congressman schmuck - from wikipedia:

"He was briefly detained at Louisville International Airport on April 20, 2004 when he attempted to board a flight for Washington, D.C. with a loaded 9 mm GLOCK pistol in his bag. The congressman explained he had "completely forgot" the gun was there. On August 10th, he pled guilty to carrying a deadly concealed weapon and agreed to a plea bargained sentence of 60 days that would be suspended for two years. On October 4, 2004, a Kentucky judge issued a bench warrant for his arrest after he failed to pay court costs, but it was set aside a few hours later after his law firm paid the fine."

While for whatever reasoning he did vote against the Iraq war, he still qualifies as schmuck material for his baseless attack against Canadians, but in particular Canadian minorities and our own internal policies.

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If there was ever a time for Canadians to become pushy - now is the time - for time is running out on this nation called Canada.

"The 'historic nature of the refugee and immigration policy' in Canada has long been a concern in the U.S., Indiana congressman John Hostettler says." <br />
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<a href="http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2006/06/09/border-security.html">http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2006/06/09/border-security.html</a><br />
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I would say that, up until these congressional elections, the guy didn't even know where Canada is...............<p>---<br>RickW