Transport Canada Approves 100% Electric Car

Posted on Saturday, November 03 at 13:22 by N Say
Company founder Ian Clifford had accused the federal government of blocking him from selling the cars in Canada, saying officials from Transport Canada gave him different responses every time he approached them. The car is considered a low-speed urban vehicle with a regulated maximum speed of 40 km/h. It's designed for areas where speed limits are 50 km/h or less, such as city core or neighbourhood-type driving, said Clifford. ... http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/2007/11/02/zenn-transportcanada.html

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  1. Sun Nov 04, 2007 2:24 am
    Assuming there is no brown/blackouts in the area, this will be a handy second car. It's gratifying to know the polution these cars cause, will be in someone elses backyard.

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  2. Sun Nov 04, 2007 6:44 pm
    It's easier to control pollution from a few coal plants than from a million cars.<br />
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    I'd buy one too - then proceed to hack it so the limiter is 60km/h so I wouldn't feel like such an ass driving around town. Most of the routes I take to get groceries are well above the 40km/h this car is limited to; and it would be a great grocery getter.<br />
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    <a href="http://zenncars.com/brochure/broch_index.html">http://zenncars.com/brochure/broch_index.html</a><p>---<br>The preceding comment deals with mature subject matter, however immaturely presented. Viewer discretion is advised.<br />

  3. Mon Nov 05, 2007 5:12 am
    "It's easier to control pollution from a few coal plants than from a million cars."

    True and they are working on the million cars. They seem to wait on the coal plants. Like any fossil fuel, coal will run out too and meanwhile create a worse problem. Electric cars burn fossil fuels unless the power is generated by other means. Today, that is not the norm. Rather then create the need, it would be better to prepare ahead of schedule. Batteries are not the solution.


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  4. Mon Nov 05, 2007 6:04 pm
    Batteries are the solution! (Hydrogen is a battery too). Because they fit the existing infrastructure, and because they don't have to be charged from Coal plants. Wind, solar, geothermal . . all can be used.

    Supercapacitors, however are the revolution!

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  5. Tue Nov 06, 2007 11:30 pm
    Hydrogen "cells" are batteries that are no more practical then any other battery out there. The energy used to make them is as great as the energy to be conserved. No one has yet explained where the water affluent is to end up. Supercapacitors are a revolution that isn't here yet. The fact that no battery, cell or capacitor is yet fully developed, only supports my theory. No EV is revolutionary and still a burden. Untill the AM is history, they are not a practical solution. There are plenty of electric vehicles out there and very few being sold. You could own one now, so why don't you?

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  6. Wed Nov 07, 2007 12:17 am
    "Hydrogen "cells" are batteries that are no more practical then any other battery out there."

    Which is why Ballard is selling it's fuel cell division.

    "No one has yet explained where the water affluent is to end up."

    ?? It's just water. It can go anywhere.

    "Supercapacitors are a revolution that isn't here yet. "

    No, but they are emerging.

    "The fact that no battery, cell or capacitor is yet fully developed, only supports my theory. No EV is revolutionary and still a burden. Untill the AM is history, they are not a practical solution."

    Portable computers weren't practical until the 90's, but the first was way back in the 70's. Technology evolves. First adopters may get a rougher product - but I still feel each step brings us closer to the final goal.

    "There are plenty of electric vehicles out there and very few being sold. You could own one now, so why don't you?"

    It's not in my budget right now. But I am putting it in the 'nice to have' column for the next year. Running a diesel/biodiesel for now will have to suffice.

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  7. Wed Nov 07, 2007 2:52 am
    "Which is why Ballard is selling it's fuel cell division."

    You better check your facts. The "fuel cell division" is what Ballard is. They have investors from Ford, Daimler and non-automotive business.


    Bio-diesel is fine if you can get it. I run a 1985 Toyota pickup since new. The diesel is simple enough to accept biofuels but none is available in my area.

    The EV is still not for a primary car, unless you have no need to go beyond it's limitations. You seem to agree with what I am saying but still ignoring what is being said.
    The east coast, Ontario & Quebec get brown outs. Add a few more demands on the system and picture walking to work while your EV is waiting to be charged.

    If you live in BC, you will not want a few more million liters of water beiing obsorbed in the atmosphere. If you live in colder climates, you won't appreciate another source of ice. If all cars ran on Hydrogen cells, where would the water output go?

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  8. Wed Nov 07, 2007 6:45 pm
    "You better check your facts. The "fuel cell division" is what Ballard is. They have investors from Ford, Daimler and non-automotive business. "<br />
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    You know me better than that. <br />
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    "If you had any hope that this was going to come to pass, you would hold on to it," said Research Capital analyst Jon Hykawy, adding the automotive fuel-cell sector has been a "black hole" for cash."<br />
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    <a href="http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20071106.RBALLARD06/TPStory/Business">http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20071106.RBALLARD06/TPStory/Business</a><br />
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    The Automotive Section of Ballard power is just a part. FTA: "Currently, Ballard is developing fuel-cell products for applications including forklifts, backup power and residential systems that provide heat and hot water."<br />
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    "Bio-diesel is fine if you can get it. I run a 1985 Toyota pickup since new. The diesel is simple enough to accept biofuels but none is available in my area."<br />
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    A buddy and I take turns making it, and share.<br />
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    <a href="http://www.azurebiodiesel.com/">http://www.azurebiodiesel.com/</a><br />
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    "The EV is still not for a primary car, unless you have no need to go beyond it's limitations. You seem to agree with what I am saying but still ignoring what is being said.<br />
    The east coast, Ontario & Quebec get brown outs. Add a few more demands on the system and picture walking to work while your EV is waiting to be charged."<br />
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    Where did I say I would want it as my primary car? It would be a perfect grocery getter. The grocery store is close enough to me that cranking up my V-8 or my truck to get groceries makes no sense, but it's the only choice I have. I also work from home, so I don't need much of a daily driver. I don't even need shoes.<br />
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    Perhaps I'm not addressing what your saying because it isn't obvious to me?<br />
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    "If you live in BC, you will not want a few more million liters of water beiing obsorbed in the atmosphere. If you live in colder climates, you won't appreciate another source of ice."<br />
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    As opposed to all the water, co2 and s02 (-> h2so4) that cars generate now?<br />
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    "If all cars ran on Hydrogen cells, where would the water output go?"<br />
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    The same place the water from Hydrocarbon combustion goes now. The same place Hydrogen fuel cell buses put it now. It's just water, and water vapour. And I don't forsee h2 fuel cells in cars for some time to come. Pure EVs generate no water during their operation.<p>---<br>The preceding comment deals with mature subject matter, however immaturely presented. Viewer discretion is advised.<br />

  9. Thu Nov 08, 2007 2:55 am
    I always believed Hydrogen fuel cells aren't going to make it. There are more capable EVs then the one link. Try Google. They still are limited. I am to far away from anything to even attempt using one. The Azure Bodiesel device looks okay but is it expensive? There are home brew kits as well that have been made "at home".

    Evaporating water makes rain. That is the pun I attempted to make! BC has a few drops of the stuff, periodically.

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