Feds Reject Ontario's Call For Handgun Ban

Posted on Saturday, June 02 at 13:10 by Chris Harder
Jordan Manners, 15, was shot and killed at C.W. Jefferys Collegiate Institute in the Jane-Finch area of Toronto, known for its high crime rate. Kwinter told Day that common sense dictates fewer handguns being available would result in fewer handgun crimes. Story: http://www.cbc.ca/canada/ottawa/story/2007/06/01/handgun-070601.html My thoughts: I was unaware of this until now. The outcome works great for me. Don't worry, it doesn't change how I feel about a certain Minister of The SPP.

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  1. Sun Jun 03, 2007 12:10 am
    The report says the British banned handguns in 1997 and the incidence of crime with handguns has gone up since. Stockwell Day suggests that one follows the other. The obvious question of course is, "by how much would the incidence have gone up had handguns NOT been banned."?

    Frank

  2. by RPW
    Sun Jun 03, 2007 12:33 am
    "The way you see crime with firearms reduced is to have a more aggressive policy, is to have more officers on the street, is to go after the illegal use of firearms, go after the smuggling of firearms..."

    So, when the crooks can outgun the cops..........? That Stockwell sure is funny!

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  3. Sun Jun 03, 2007 12:55 am
    the way the police, National and local are blowing away people the citizens need handguns for protection.


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  4. by Rural
    Sun Jun 03, 2007 1:11 am
    Handguns are already banned!! Unless you have a permit (which is quite difficullt to get and has very definite restrictions as to when you can carry it) you cannot have a handgun. Are those calling for a "ban" saying that all the recent shootings are with REGESTERED hand guns or are they saying that banning them will somehow stop the flood of illegal guns coming in from the U.S.?

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  5. Sun Jun 03, 2007 1:18 am
    I probably shouldn't ask this question, but why are the Cons against it? They had
    no problem with the longguns registry, (I mean they did, and then they didn't
    but the voters did) or is that the issue, they don't want
    another situation like the last? As Rural says handguns are already only available
    with a permit and I've always thought it would be rather funny that criminals
    would first register their guns before committing a crime.

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  6. Sun Jun 03, 2007 7:16 am
    What a bunch of retards. Why waste the effort with banning guns when in one fell swoop you can get rid of *all* crime just by banning crime itself?

    Duh!

  7. by Deacon
    Sun Jun 03, 2007 7:39 am
    Doesn't everyone already know that "registered" weapons are incapable of killing?

    As for banning all guns, what a stupid plan, and ill conceived by those who endorse it.

    Here's why it won't work. Those of you who don't get it the first read through can re-read it again, but slower.

    Laws only work for law abiding people.

    Criminals are people who are not law abiding.

    Criminals are criminals because they break the law, generally knowingly and with intent.

    For those who want guns, this is just another law to be ignored.

    The rest should be obvious.



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  8. Sun Jun 03, 2007 4:25 pm
    Some years ago a study was conducted in the USA by the anti-gun lobbyists to 'prove' to the powers-that-be that gun control would reduce the number of gun related deaths in that country.

    Upon completion of this study the final report was hushed up! (at least not widely publicized).

    WHY????

    Because the report concluded exactly the opposite of what the lobby had set out to prove!

    A simple illustration: Washington DC and Los Angles have probably the toughest anti-gun laws in the USA. They also have the highest number of gun related deaths.

    Those states with carry laws (permitted to carry side arms openly or concealed) had the lowest number of gun related deaths. Go figure. But then, clear rationale was never the strong suit of the anti-gun lobby.

    Personally I believe that anyone that goes through reasonable training, analysis, and licensing, should be permitted to carry; and no, I don't own any long guns or side arms.

    H.F. Wolff

  9. Sun Jun 03, 2007 5:54 pm
    "by how much would the incidence have gone up had handguns NOT been banned."?"

    Very good point! It appears those in support of guns can come up with the figures to support their belief. I would wonder what method man would use, had he not conceived "guns". It is a fruitless argument when one considers that the sole purpose of a gun, is to destroy life. All other options are based on the original concept.

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  10. Sun Jun 03, 2007 6:53 pm
    Canada's 'New' government is against it, because people in Ontairo percieve the guns as the problem. If the polls are for banning an already banned thing, what harm could there be in parroting that position?

    Other than looking like asses . . .

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  11. Sun Jun 03, 2007 6:54 pm
    Hehehe. Next, they can ban stupidity, and put themselves out of jobs.

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  12. Sun Jun 03, 2007 7:38 pm
    Those of us who follow the Christian (and I believe the Jewish) religion will be well aware that one of the commandments states "thou shalt not murder". All of us, religious or not will be well aware that murder is regarded as evil and is punished severely in our society. I suspect that most murders are committed by the use of firearms be they handguns or not, so why should we not be trying to stamp these killers out. An earlier post pointed out that guns are made for only one purpose- to kill. I agree with this point and have expressed it several times in "letters to the editor" and e-mails to politicians. None of this correspondence ever got a response. Obviously others do not share my opinion, so would somebody explain to me for what other purpose guns are made.? Yes I'm well aware that rifle shooting is an olympic sport, that hunting is a very popular "sport" and that most hunters are very responsible people. As the saying goes "some of my best friends" are hunters, but the point remains - guns are made to kill.

  13. Sun Jun 03, 2007 8:43 pm
    "Handguns are already banned!! Unless you have a permit .."

    That's what Ontario wants to rectify. No handguns, even with a permit. In fact, no permits issued.

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  14. Sun Jun 03, 2007 8:50 pm
    Deacon, this is an argument like religion. No matter your view or mine, the argument will never be settled. I do believe that if I had candies in my house, a resourceful kid will find it. If I don't want to be responsible for the kid getting candy, I would at least not have it in my house.

    Your response could be: Oh! How sweet. :)

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